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If I might ask, since I came onto the conversation a little late, what does Deuteronomy 29:29 have to do with the thread and on PB beliefs ?

 

In response to the rant that EW&F has been on since post 10. Just go back and check the progress of the thread since that point.

 

This is a denial of the Biblical God.

 

explain, please.

 

So, was the mosquito that lighted on you and bit you predestined of God to do so? Or does time and chance happen to us all?

The word 'predestinate' is used only four times in the bible and is always in reference to God calling out a people for His own possession, NOT to events in this temporal realm.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Ro 8

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Eph 2

 

But things pertaining to the election of God's people, and the dispensation of His grace and mercy to those He chose to be gracious and merciful to, doesn't seem, to me, to be among the secret things, that Moses refers to.

Scripture is clear about these things, albeit these truths may not be found lumped up in one book, but scattered in so many pages among the books written by His people in so many years from different backgrounds and contexts (?).

It is left to us, of this age's generations, for whom the Bible was written and given in print as a library or compilation of 66 books, to correctly identify these truths by properly dividing Scripture.

 

That really ticks me off. In no way do the Primitive Baptists 'deny the Biblical God'. This is a downright arrogant, ignorant misrepresentation on your part to make such a statement.

I'm getting to dislike Puritans more and more on account of you. Perhaps you're not doing such a good job of representing them? Or are they really this judgmental?

 

Hello Kyred

my post was a response to a. direct quote from ewfs link.
Before i respond to you directly....would you take the time to examine the link and let me know if you agree with that link and it's contents.
You can provide your own link if you like.
the one posted has several errors in it.

I will respond fully when i finish my deliveries.

 

You mean the one with, "[The Calvinistic view of perseverance] fosters a climate of condescension and judgmentalism",?

 

I knew it. You DO have to let some things go.

 

There is no scripture in the Bible that teaches to us though that a sinner can be saved apart from receiving the provisions of God thru faith, so one is either lost or saved in this life, which will remain same state throughout eternity!

 

You completely fail to grasp the concept that the differences between ETERNAL SALVATION and GOSPEL salvation are that the former is completely of GOD and passive to the sinner and the latter is based on the sinner's input to the salvation news that he receives, I.e. faith in the finished work of Christ and obedience to His word.

 

Forgive me for lacking information on this. I'm learning that I'm apparently far less educated than many of the people here...far more unlearned, apparently.

Pinoy - So there's more than one salvation?

The way I'm reading this, the necessity of preaching ended after the last apostle had died, seeing as no one else other than the apostles were commissioned to preach.

What if someone is saved but not able to be baptized, for whatever reason...is that person's salvation weakened or made of none effect?

 

No matter, it hit the nail on the head.

 

Hey, there. Actually we are all of us far more ignorant of Scriptures than we care to admit regardless of the scholarly titles we confer on ourselves.
Some of our people among the PB's think of it as two being taught in Scripture, while others talk of it as one with two aspects, eternal and gospel or timely.

Preaching extends beyond the apostles to those in the church separated by the Spirit for that purpose IN THE CHURCH. Preaching is for the edification of the saints, not unbelievers. As for your last question I respond with a question : do you believe one is "unsaved" if not baptized ?