Quick baptisms

[Jim1999]

I was dealing with a muslim who eventually accepted Christ into his life. It took over two years of corresponding and three telephone discussions. He had a business with a Muslim partner whom he could trust. Hence, all our email went to this machine and his partner never touched it.

When the Muslim accepted the gospel, I decided it was time to make contact with our Fellowship Baptist missionary. It took 3 months for them to finally meet. The missionary had to make sure this wasn't a Muslim trick to get him, and then for the lad to make sure he wasn't tricked.

Just an idea what it is like in Muslim countries.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[DHK]

While that is generally true. There are still young people when they come to know Christ they are ridiculed and written off from the family. Some are written out of the will. When I came to Christ I received some nasty letters from family members who basically told me I was stupid. They continued on until some of them came to Christ. Some of them wanted little to do with my daughter. My master's thesis was never approved and I suspect because most of the members of the committee were Mormons. I had talked very openly about my faith and with Mormons as well. The Mormon bishop told some of the people in his "church" not to associate with me. He was in the same department where I was a student and was also on my committee.

Anyone who lives for Christ will have two followings--the antagonists and the faithful.

And anyone that has to stand up to persecution like that, and does not deny the faith, should have no problem being baptized immediately. That testimony gives weight to what I am saying. If the fruit of the person saved is so evident by the persecution that he is facing, then "why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized."

 

[gb93433]

And anyone that has to stand up to persecution like that, and does not deny the faith, should have no problem being baptized immediately. That testimony gives weight to what I am saying. If the fruit of the person saved is so evident by the persecution that he is facing, then "why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized."

It sure puts one to the test to see if their faith is real. Over the years I have seen most of my family and relatives receive Christ. My life is amazingly different today because of what I have seen.

 

[annsni]

And anyone that has to stand up to persecution like that, and does not deny the faith, should have no problem being baptized immediately. That testimony gives weight to what I am saying. If the fruit of the person saved is so evident by the persecution that he is facing, then "why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized."

Yep - In those situations, I'd say immediate baptism is absolutely fine and more in line with Scripture. It's just the quick easy conversions we have today that don't really mean a darned thing warrants a bit of discipleship before baptism happens, IMO.

 

[Plain Old Bill]

Truth is beleiving it is easy. Accepting Christ as Lord and Savior and living the Christian life is a different story.

 

[Jim1999]

What we need after conversion is the motto we see on a lot of doors..."PUSH".

Cheers,

Jim

 

[rlvaughn]

Yep - In those situations, I'd say immediate baptism is absolutely fine and more in line with Scripture. It's just the quick easy conversions we have today that don't really mean a darned thing warrants a bit of discipleship before baptism happens, IMO.

I wonder if most of us could agree that it is not immediate baptism that is the real issue, but that we are not convinced these people are converted?

 

[Plain Old Bill]

The service is over and I'm shaking everybody's hand as they file out of the church. A young man in line shakes my hand and says I heard your sermon today and I believe Jesus is who He says He is and that I am saved based on my belief in Him. Is he saved or not? Was that to easy? Does it make any difference if it happened in a calvinistic church?

 

[convicted1]

RE: Quick Baptism??

I had several cousins back in the late 1990's who made a profession of faith and were "baptized" immediately. After the year 2000 rolled around and nothing "happened", they quit going to church. Around here, people kept saying that according to the bible, a "change" took place every 2000 years, and I guessed they thought that Jesus would/could return in 2000. IOW, I think they "repented" out of fear that the world would end sometime in the year 2000, or so, and not conviction from the Holy Ghost. As far as quick baptism goes, I guess it is solely based upon that individuals experience. When I knew that the Lord had saved me, I wanted to be baptized immediately. To me, the water baptism is more than "symbolic", it was something that Jesus himself did, so its more than a mere "symbol". It is showing that a great change has taken place in one's life, and that Jesus is now whom they serve, and not satan. The bible says its not for the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but to answer a good conscience towards God. I am not saying that you can't get to heaven without it, but if you were saved for thirty years and didn't make the "statement of faith" and then be baptized, I'd have my doubts. (I hope none of this causes this thread to become hijacked).

Willis

 

[gb93433]

The service is over and I'm shaking everybody's hand as they file out of the church. A young man in line shakes my hand and says I heard your sermon today and I believe Jesus is who He says He is and that I am saved based on my belief in Him. Is he saved or not? Was that to easy? Does it make any difference if it happened in a calvinistic church?

Every person begins their growth at the same point.