:praying: jesus chooses who is in authority:applause: :applause:
Rudy for President!
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Feb 19, 2007.
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I hope that Jesus chooses Congressman Ron Paul. :)
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Well, Ken, it is a silly question so knock off the theatrics with the oversized red ink. If you don't want to vote for a divorced person, don't. I have already explained that I think that divorce is legal for no reason in this country and that I depart from Fundamentalism and Catholicism in that I allow divorce in cases of adultery or desertion (which assumes adultery after a period of time). So I disagree with you on divorce, Ken, evidently. I mean, Ken, I don't consider voting for a candidate the same as being the candidate's spouse so I trust Rudy as a leader and a popular Republican and I do not consider the fact that he has had two divorces any more disqualifying than the fact that Reagan had one divorced as disqualifying for him.
Rudy has 44 percent of the GOP voters according to polling. No one else is even close. The GOP usually nominates the front runner. Rudy is America's Mayor. -
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Poncho, that article is not quite up-to-date. Rudy has already agreed to appoint judges along the lines that Bush has established. So that one is off the table.
Another thing that the article does not mention is foreign policy. Rudy is the only figure to stick with traditional GOP foreign policy, which, I understand, Poncho, that you want to dump.
As for the gays, guns, and abortion, Rudy can close all of those issues by promising to run on the Republican platform as it now stands in relation to those issuess. He can confess that his personal feelings will not interfere with his being a representative of the majority of his party.
We went through all this divorce business with Reagan. Everything is legal and the gossip is viscious, just as it was with Reagan. I don't think that either Rejpublican opponents, like those on the Baptist Board, or Democrats can make hay on this issue. Divorce is allowed by Jesus in cases of adultery or desertion.
The real problem is that conservatives don't have a candidate. Ron Paul has libertarian positions on capital punishment, abortion, and same-sex marriage. He, too, is outside of the mainstream Republican thinking on those domestic issues, not to mention foreign policy.
The Republicans don't have anyone any better than Rudy at this time. Conservatives have no one at all acceptable to either party. That is because most conservatives would rather get rich than do public service for others. -
Bush was selling himself as a pro-life, born again Christian conservative in both 2000 and 2004. I think it's a shame that the GOP has gone so far to the left in less than eight years that the "pro-life, Christian conservative" GOP voters are excited about rallying around a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, anti-Constitution candidate like Rudy! -
church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Now, now, put the soapbox away and say, "Good-bye." There are no conservative candidates in the GOP at the moment. Besides, we don't need a member of the Constitution Party and their net publicists to lecture the GOP. Rudy is the best of the bunch at this time. The other two front-runners are McCain, who is no conservative and who is a maverick, and Romney, who is a member of a cult that teaches that everyman by working hard for Mormonism can become a god in charge of his own planet in the universe. In other words, $500,000,000 does not mean that Romney is not a nut.
The Constitution Party has an isolationist foreign policy and so they want to abolish capital punishment and allow individual states to abort the unborn--talk about hypocrites. -
CMG, you have mastered the art of dodging the issues over the years! :laugh:
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Are we even talking about the same foreign policy CMG? Is it the same foreign policy as the neoconservatives? If it is it amounts to little more than trying to fight a fire by pouring gasoline on it. How is that in the least advantageous to America? Are we that desperate for enemies that we have to keep multiplying their numbers?
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No Republican, no matter all the fuss now, stands a snowball's chance on a hot stove of being elected President in '08. Any of the Democrats in the top four or five positions, Clinton, Obama, Edwards, or even Al Gore, will easily defeat any Republican running by 10 percentage points or more in the popular vote, and at least 30 electoral votes.
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At this point, even the Republican party leadership realizes that its next best chance for the White House is 2016, and that 2008 is shaping up to be their worst rear-end kicking since Goldwater in 64, maybe worse than that. -
And the Democrats having such not-ready-for-prime-time candidates such as Obama and Clinton at the top of their list shows just how devoid of good ideas the Democrats are - as well as the current media favorites in the GOP such as McCain and Guiliani are also devoid of any good ideas and not-ready-for-prime-time. -
If Reagan is Rudy's hero then Rudy had best make a lot of big changes in his political platform. -
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