Duh. Of course it does. THAT IS NOT THE POINT. Black people for decades have disproportionately borne the brunt of law enforcement.
But the fact is that ALL minorities have been targeted at some point in time. Why do you think cops called vans "Paddy wagons"? Why did poor white trash find themselves in prison when their betters went scot free? Los Angeles is notorious for its treatement of Hispanics. Marijuana was finally outlawed by federal code (and its ridiculous Class I designation approved) because it was a nasty "Mexican" drug, unlike cocaine. New York police regularly shook down and brutalized gays. Ask Native Americans about their relations with police.
Yes, the issue is not of one single race. But blacks have been stuck at the epicenter for hundreds of years and have a special case to plead.
SBC President's pronouncement on 'Black Lives Matter' slogan
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Jerome, Jun 11, 2020.
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There is no evidence systemic racism is a current issue in the US. Individual racism is another isdue. But more than that are the present consequences (or overcoming the consequences) if past systemic racism.
But that is not what we are talking about here, is it?
We are talking about Black Lives Matter as a movement (what the SBC was addressing). Deciding Mr. Floyd's murder was a racial issue was an assumption that constituted racism.
If the example is Mr. Floyd then the issue is police brutality, not race. If it is the number of police shootings, well most were white. Race is not the determining factor.
But there is a culture within the black community (a product of past systemic racism) that places a disproportionate percentage of black men in confrontations with police officers. This has contributed to individual racism (but not irrational racism as a police officer is almost 20% more likely to due at the hands of a black suspect than a white suspect).
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Watching the news I see over again that the Democrat VP candidate needs to be a black woman. Companies need to have a stronger black presence in leadership.
There are issues but the solutions are wrong. Choosing a black person for VP means not choosing someone else because they are not black (it is racism). Selecting a leader because they are black means not selecting a leader because he or she is white (again, this is racism).
Racism is a sin problem. It is hatred. It is evil. You are absolutely right that Christians cannot just ignore the problem. But we have to be very careful not to join in a worldly solution that fails to address the root problem (sin). I believe we have to start in our churches - not joining our voices with BLM but being a much brighter light.
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The main solution to the racism problem is to vote Republican. It is the Democrats who have committed the racism. They think that they don't have to do anything for the black vote. In the case of this cop, he was one of the rare sadistic psychopaths in the profession. That fact eluded Greear and so once again he disgraced himself with his silly analogy. He is an adult male with a childish mind.
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Katarina Von Bora Active Member
Blacks have risen to every area of law enforcement, the military, the Supreme Court and even the presidency. You are simply wrong.
Check the facts on black on black crime. There are many of them, but they all say roughly the same thing. Black on black crime is ubiquitous.
https://nypost.com/2019/11/09/chicagos-crime-proves-black-lives-dont-matter-to-democrats/
I met my husband who was visiting Los Angeles at his brothers house in the Crenshaw district. The neighborhood was filled with nice houses with bars on their windows and doors. I asked him about the bars on the windows and who were they locking out.
The rules of the forums and the Bible forbid me from repeating his answer. I'm sure you can figure it out.
We married and my job in the Navy sent us to Great Lakes (Mistakes), Ill. My husband's sister lived in the infamous Cabrini Green public housing apartments. She lived on the 16th floor. We attempted to use the elevator but it was broken again/still. We saw the kids and asked them why these elevators didn't work. They said that they wanted "to make that white man come out to fix it". I was incredulous. They seemed to not understand that their grandmother had to walk up 16 stories I seems no one had taught them that their actions had consequences for everyone who lived there. Yet they knew enough to blame white people.
This is systematic sin.
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Steven Yeadon Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
We have the Baptist only boards because of deep doctrinal differences we almost all see. Differences that put us at odds fundamentally and not Brethren, such as Roman Catholic teachings that are forthrightly against a contextual reading of the bible.
The acrimony on this board by some posters is worrying to me. It feels the respect people had for each other as Brethren is wearing thin. Emotions are at fever pitch. I'll PM a Mod. -
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Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect?
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When a brother is in sin, you correct your brother.
Aaron, please don't hide behind a prooftext as a means of avoiding the uncomfortable areas where sin is harbored in the heart.
Why would God speak through John to tell the elect that "If we confess our sin, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sin"? God tells his elect that they are to confess sin. God brings brothers alongside us to point out where sin is harboring so that we might lay hold of the sin that so easily entangles us and clean it off so that we might run the race unhindered. -
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Two firsts for me today. I used the Report option and I used the Ignore option.
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I still await the BB administration to condemn racism and ban racists on this board.
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So enlighten us - what is true racism.
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