I enjoyed the question about "Lying," and it caused me to think about a believer working in a job that would require them to lie, stretch the truth or alter the facts to accomplish a task or be successful on the job.
For example, a used car and even new car, salesperson would have to lie at times, or at least stretch the truth to make that sale.
A mortgage broker (and we know this to be true because lying resulted in bad loans that broke the economy and depressed it a few years back) would have to lie or stretch the facts to make a living.
In my case, in order to catch bad guys, like child molesters, child abusers, etc., I had to tell lies in order to get them to reveal the truth of what they did. To catch an unlicensed day-care provider, I'd have to either go to the home and pretend I was looking for a day or do it over the phone, and then cite them when I discovered they had no valid license. This always meant shutting them down and leaving them with no ability to make a living, and it left parents who left their kids there without a day care, inconveniencing them while the sought a place to care for their children!
I always felt bad about having to lie, but as the unit manager, I had to do my job.
That always bothered me, and I had one Christian gal, that refused to lie to accomplish the tasks I just told you about, so I told her that was fine, and had others do that lying, when needed, by pairing her up with an investigator that had no qualms with lying!
I think you get the idea. So the question is, should a believer work in a career that will require lying, no matter what the reason, in order to seal the deal for their employer?
Should I Work for a Agency that Would Require me to Lie?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Mar 31, 2015.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I was bivo at my first church. I sold Trane A/C. The Christian owner wanted me to work the owners portion of the rebate back into the cost of the unit. I no longer worked their.
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padredurand Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I sold cars for seven years working my way up from beating the lot to sales manager. If the boss ever caught you lying you were out the door.
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RD2, nope. If any agency lies to the customer they will lie to you. You're in business to make money and earn a living. No room for lies.
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Why would a car salesman or mortgage broker need to lie to make a living?
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Not justifying, just answering the question.
For example, I also sold cars at a Ford dealership)( I wonder if I was the one who replaced Padre) - well one of the other salesman stated when asked by a customer if he drove a Ford - he would answer yes. What he did not mention was that Ford was one that belong to the company - and I am not talking about a demo that he drove home every day. -
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
When someone confesses what they told you is "technically true," they are admitting that they have lied. They have omitted context or additional information that will put what they have told you into a new light.
The spirit of the command against false witness is the command not to be a person who deceives or manipulates with words. -
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But Christians have to have integrity. we can't let the world hold mammon over our head as a reason to disobey God. -
(and now one of a few dealerships that only sells one make of autos)
I did - and was glad to inform my customers as such.
Why would you want to own a competing product of what you were trying to sell? -
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Active thread until tax day is mentioned. Then chirping crickets. :laugh:
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You don't have to be an owner of a product (or even like it) to sell it honestly and effectively. I have sold many things I could not afford for myself, but that doesn't mean that I am a hypocrite for selling it. Moreover, I have owned competing products to what I was selling - usually, purchased before having the new product to sell - and you offer the product you have been commissioned to sell using an honest comparison between products and promoting the value in the one you have been asked to sell. Fortunately, I have never been put in the position of selling junk, so I didn't have to quit my job to keep my ethics.
For companies that are not selling simple commodities and look beyond the immediate bottom line, there is something called being a "trusted advisor." The process to becoming a trusted advisor to potential clients often involves an event where you need to tell your client that a product of service that you do not sell will most effectively meet their need. That is the moment when they realize that you are looking out for them, not yourself, and you can be trusted to help them make good decisions. When you become a trusted advisor, you become the first point-of-contact whenever their is a new opportunity to sell goods or services and both you and your client are enriched. -
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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