With the New York bomber refusing to talk and all lawyered up, my question is: do we really need to Mirandize these enemy combatants?
In case you wonder, I say no! In fact, I hope if Trump wins, he sends these idiots straight to Gitmo!!!!!
Should terrorists be Mirandized?
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Sep 21, 2016.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Yes, if someone is arrested they need to be Mirandized. Unless the arresting authorities are psychic and can determine intent with 100% accuracy.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
No they should not. You do not mirandize enemy soldiers on the battle field.
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I come from a Constitutional "frame of mind" which is supposed to be the guiding light of our civic and political relationship. You are condemning me for being an American by nature, and not just by birth. I am guilty.
I happen to like the Constitution.
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If they resist and survive the onslaught, yes.
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If we go back to the original intent of the Constitution, the theory is that all persons had Creator-given rights that the Constitution RECOGNIZED. The Constitution did not GRANT rights, but simply recognized what was apparent to thinking men and women.
Jefferson noted such thinking in the Declaration of Independence when asserted that:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.Now the Founders were not completely consistent in their beliefs - it was a white male dominated world - but the principle is sound. That is the high standard to which the United States was founded. Yet many people today - including Mr. Trump - don't know that or they want to throw it away.
Conservative people want to conserve this principle. You are not politically conservative if you want to throw it away.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
From Benedict Arnold to Jane Fonda, traitors come in all shapes and colors, and genders. I consider American citizens taking up arms, and that includes bombs, against other Americans on our own soil for a cause that has declared war against us as a people as nothing less than traitors, and traitors deserve no rights, especially rights accorded to fellow citizens. The minute they intend to take the life f a fellow citizen for the purpose of war, means they forfiet any Constitutuional rights gauranteed them Under those laws. -
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As someone who was innocently placed on the terror watch list because I fit a certain profile - without a channel of recourse so that I could have my case examined - I am quite sensitive to these issues.
Your rhetoric would have me sitting in a cage at Gitmo, enjoying rounds of water boarding, just for the crime flying last minute to a city on the Mexican border as part of my job. -
Evangelicals in the GOP have rejected Jesus as the standard. That much was evident with the support of the Mormon.
Now they've abandoned the rule of law.
Countries are destroyed from within. No need to worry about the terrorists.
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