Featured Should the saved "care" about the lost going to Hades and Gehenna?

If a person never was exposed to the gospel, thus having never "reject" the saving grace of God, are they thus not eternally damned? You really should learn what the bible says, because you appear to promote alternate views.

 

You hold false doctrines, i.e. the TULI of the TULIP. Your idiotic claims about what I believe, without quotes are simply manufactured falsehoods indicating a lack of love of truth.

 

Once again the Calvinist asks subject change questions, in an effort to hide Calvinism's falsehoods. Note the fiction that God commands people to do what He has prevented them from doing. This is the god of Calvinism's invention, not the God of the Bible.

Note the phrase "fair of God" in quotes? As if I used the term! Talk about manufacturing strawman arguments!!!

 

Do you actually think there is no difference between Hades and Gehenna? Give me a break...

 

Yes, everyone God places into Christ and then seals in Christ with the Holy Spirit, has God's "pledge" of bodily redemption at Christ' second coming. What you read into the text is that individuals were predestined before creation, rather than after being chosen for salvation during their lifetime.

My first point explains why scripture requires that the election of Ephesians 1:4 (chose us in Him) refers to a corporate rather than individual election.

My gospel is the gospel of Christ, not the gospel of Calvinism.

You said "through faith" yet Calvinism's doctrine is "not through faith." Calvinism says our election was unconditional, but scripture says (2 Thessalonians 2:13) we were chosen for salvation through faith in the truth.

I support every "rabid anti-reformed talking point" from scripture. Have you address what I said?

Yes both men and God harden hearts. None of that would be found in scripture if the result of the Fall brought "total spiritual inability." The question, once again, is why did God harden hearts in Romans 11 if they were already hardened? Your "further judgement" is fiction without biblical support. He hardens to prevent them from believing.

Your "those who come to God have already been chosen" assertion is gibberish. What did you mean by "come to God?" One, it could mean to place our faith in God and His Christ, or two, it could mean to be placed spiritually into Christ. John 6:37 refers to being placed into Christ, thus the promise not to cast out.

I bash Calvinism's false doctrines (T,U,L &I of the TULIP), not the essential biblical doctrines.

Finally, you complain about my behavior, rather than addressing the topic.

 

1) This post addresses my behavior - "your whole reason for being on this board is to bloviate..."
2) Not one comment as to the obvious flaws of Calvinism.

This is the sum and substance of the defense of Calvinism's false doctrines, attack the character and qualifications of the opponent. Note the words, bloviate, hijack, ad nauseam...

 

The man-centered Calvinist doctrine makes God responsible for the lost going into eternal punishment, scripture indicates some of the lost might be saved through effective witness. For example, some people would have repented had they seen the miracles Jesus performed elsewhere. Or the fields are white with harvest.

Do the lost, living today, have an opportunity for salvation, or is the outcome of their life a foregone conclusion? Calvinism says "a foregone conclusion" but scripture says the kingdom of God is at hand.

Calvinist doctrine claims the lost have no opportunity to choose life, because the outcome of their life is a foregone conclusion.
Not the gospel of Christ...

Mark 1:15
and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

According to Calvinism, Jesus is mistaken as the lost are not able to repent or believe.

According to Calvinism, the good news is an illusion, as there is no opportunity for salvation among those previously consigned to Hades and Gehenna. Jesus says "seek God" but Calvinism says no lost person ever seeks God.

On and on folks, two very different gospels...

 

We need to explore why folks might not actually love the lost. What if they they believe God already consigned the lost to Hades and Gehenna?

2 Thessalonians 2:10
He (the Man of Lawlessness) will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

Being on the way to destruction does not suggest destruction is a forgone conclusion. Jesus came to save that which is lost.

If God has foreordained who will be saved, and thus everyone else is de facto ordained to Hades and Gehenna, then the message of the gospel is misleading. If you were chosen before creation, then the gospel is good news, otherwise it is the news you were consigned to eternal punishment apart from God.

Luke 6:27
“But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

Ask yourself this question, did Jesus have the power to forgive the sin of the lost, to take away the sin of the world, if God had already ordained who would not be forgiven?
Matthew 9:6
“But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”—then He *said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, pick up your stretcher and go home.”

Did Jesus bring a message of hope or futility?