Unfortunately in English this clears up nothing as there are several ways to interprete this English phrase.
1. They were known by the apostles.
2. They were known as oustanding apostles.
An example, "Abraham Lincoln is one who is outstanding among presidents'.
Should women be allowed to baptize?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by LillyoftheValley, Apr 16, 2012.
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Rom 16:7 Greet my relatives Andronicus and Junias, who were in jail with me. They are highly respected by the apostles and were followers of Christ before I was. (CEV)
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners: who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. (DRB)
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. (MKJV)
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. (Webster) -
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Notice you left out the NASB, a literal translation. Now I wonder why you would do that. -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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HeirofSalvation Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I would do that because in my E-Sword I do not have the NASB as it costs money. Secondly the ESV and the MKJV are "literal" translations.
Adding one more :
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me. (KJV)
But you are welcome to hold to whatever you want. But not even the NASB proves your point. But as you do with scripture you are welcome to select and cherry pick those things that fit your left wing paradigm. -
And stop lying about my definition of headship. Got nothing to fall back on but insults?
There are some nasty-spirited little people in here. -
HeirofSalvation Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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You are continually throwing out the left-wing charge against anyone who is not as fanatically fundamentalist as you are. The verbs I have used to describe this are accurate. -
HeirofSalvation Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
So....Before you get your thong in a wad......Lilly is trying to call out everyone who is trying to make this thread about something it isn't, and, had you simply read and complied with her legit request in her OP....This conversation would not even be possible....Go start yourself yet one more "Women should be preachers" post and leave her alone. She wants the opinions of people who see things as she does....what is so wrong with that??
Your objection is vaguely akin to this....
I know I stole a pack of gum from the store... but Tommy did too...so make sure you punish him also........:tear::tear: -
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Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Translators do have to make choices and their own personal beliefs do influence the word they select.
To be more exact Paul uses the term 34 times ... and as I said only once is it translated by some versons as servant.
As does Phillips
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O.k. for all of those who can not read I will begin a new thread titled "Should women be ordained" for those of you who CAN, please remain calm while the masses leave. We will resume our regularly scheduled posts in a moment.
O.k. now for all of you who were contributing to the actual topic, thank you and please continue. I feel like I'm learning something here. -
Crabtownboy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Mistaken paste ... sorry.
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Beware folks. Methinks LOV & HOS are one and the same. Don't get too caught up with these two, just my humble advise.
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I think it's a great idea for a woman to baptize other women. I guess in certain situations she can baptize men too but I'd hope that there would be a godly man who could do that. :)
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