What you post here supports the idea that this warning was for first century Jews who were to flee the NT period of persecution that was coming upon them between66-70 ad.
Not you bring out 1 cor10:32 as if this is a major text.....but it is not.
It speaks of......unsaved jews,....unsaved gentiles........and then the church of God...Jew and gentile,as one new man In Christ. Nothing to see here.
[Personal attack edited] It does not matter if they read a few prophecy books or not.maybe a study of the book of James is in order before your calendar gets adjusted.
Spiritual Interpretation....pt3
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Apr 17, 2017.
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You make a really bad case for your view if you have to constantly skirt rebuttals to it.
And most or all of your allegations are completely false accusations and propaganda.[Edited]
Now let's cut the ad hominems and get back to the discussion.
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Amen. One can understand the letter of the New Testament, but it is useless without the spirit of it.
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I do not cite this to bolster my own opinion because even though Justin Martyr, as well as many others, were clearly Premillennialists, he mentioned others in his day whom he esteemed to "belong to the pure and pious faith and are true Christians" who differed to some extent. Whether those he mentioned were Premillennialists who only differed on certain particulars or if they advocated something similar to Amillennialism, no one knows. What we do know, at least from this dialogue, is that he did not call those who were not persuaded of what he believed as "clowns," "complete fools," etc. "In essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, and in all things charity."
Trypho: I remarked to you, sir, that you are very anxious to be safe in all respects since you cling to the Scriptures. But tell me, do you really admit that this place, Jerusalem, shall be rebuilt; and do you expect your people to be gathered together and made joyful with Christ, and the patriarchs, and the prophets, both the men of our nation, and other proselytes who joined them before your Christ came? Or have you given way, and admitted this in order to have the appearance of worsting us in the controversies?
Justin: I am not so miserable a fellow, Trypho, as to say one thing and think another. I admitted to you formerly, that I and many others are of this opinion, and [believe] that such will take place, as you assuredly are aware; but, on the other hand, I signified to you that many who belong to the pure and pious faith, and are true Christians, think otherwise...But I and others, who are right-minded Christians on all points, are assured that there will be a resurrection of the dead, and a thousand years in Jerusalem, which will then be built, adorned, and enlarged, [as] the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah and others declare.
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Gabriel prophesies the saving work of Christ will be finished in the appointed 70 weeks - most agree that that means 490 years, as the 70 years has been referenced by Daniel. Depending on our understanding of v. 25, the 69th week takes us to Jesus baptism or possible his entry to Jerusalem. I understand the 69th week to begin at the start of his ministry. The 70 week will then cover the 3 1/2 years of ministry & the 3 1/2 years from Pentecost, ending with the Jewish leaders being denounced as "uncircumcised" (Acts 7:51) & the conversion of Cornelius & other uncircumcised gentiles.
Jesus was confirming the covenant for the "week" of his ministry together with the Apostolic preaching. He was cut off in the middle of that 70th week. All that remained, after the 69th week, after the 70th week during which the covenant was confirmed, was the destruction. Jesus alludes to Daniel's prophecy to warn about the destruction.
For dispensationalism to separate week 70 from week 69 & insert 300 weeks is a total violation of the prophecy.
Gabriel did NOT say, "hundreds of weeks, unspecified....." He said:
“Seventy weeks are determinedOr did Jesus fail in any aspect of the prophesied saving ministry?
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.
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"Jope,
Philip Mauro answered that back in 1920 and you have not seen it evidently.
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Was Gabriel mistaken? Or was Jesus? Or Peter?
Acts 3:24 Y.es, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”Many thousands, including a great many of the priests believed in those first Gospel years. Why should week 70 be yet future?
Acts 6:7 Then the word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were obedient to the faith. -
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