http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/27/opinion/27herbert.html
Maybe it's time for you war mongers to step up and contribute to your righteous cause?
The Army's hard sell
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Travelsong, Jun 28, 2005.
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church mouse guy Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
We need capitulation and compromise just like we got in Korea and Viet Nam. We need to prove to the world that we will not spend our blood to win a war and a third withdrawal mid-war in 50 years should establish that once and for all.
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Well, Travelsong, with people like you sabotaging the war effort with your anti-war rhetoric I am not surprised that the army is having some temporary difficulties in recruting. However, the navy and the air force are not having such problems.
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The U.S. navy rocks! And my girlfriend's brother is in the air force.
But he has a point. All who "support" the war who are young enough...get off their butts and join up. -
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Travelsong since you voted for the war what does that make you. And by the way you did not answer my questions in the other thread.
King James how old are you? I am thinking Jr. High? Am I correct? -
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And Enoch...you said that trash to me because???
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Or is exercising your 1st Amendment Rights under the US Constitution sabatoging the war effort?
Climb on board the regime change train. All aboard! -
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I agree that our young men and women should decide for themselves whether to defend their family and friends and the rest of us in the United States.
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Which means you also agree that those who are over there now should be forced to bear the burden of this entire war, because nobody wants to be a part of it any longer.
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Those lefties who want to bail out of Iraq are inviting more 9/11's. But if they get that warm fuzzy feeling I guess its OK.
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Travelsong,
Upon reflection, I want to apologize for my use of the word "sabotage" in referring to you. I think that was much too strong of a word for me to have used.
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Jr. High (which we don't have) is not an "age". Age is a number, jr. high is a grade level. :cool: -
I concede the possibility that Bush may have had good intentions regarding Iraq, but I also have come to the conclusion that the dissenters were in fact correct from the beginning. This war was sold on a false premise. Iraq did not attack us on 9/11 nor was it even indirectly involved.
I honestly don't wish our troops to fail, but I know you can't fight a fanatical enemy who would gladly commit suicide to kill a few dozen innocents. This was a war no one could have predicted and the U.S. is not prepapared or able to fight it. -
The enemy in the field is far less dangerous than the enemy at home. Just like Vietnam.
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So if the overwhelming majority of Americans threw their support behind this war you believe that would discourage and quell the fanaticism of the enemy to the point that all of these suiced bombers and insurgents would give up? I think you underestimate their determination. Bush had our support for quite some time. He was not prepared for this kind of war. Therein lies our defeat. Our youth will not be convinced that this is a noble cause they should be willing to sacrifice their lives for, because the only reason we are committed to staying at this point is to save face. And I agree with you, it was the same in Vietnam.
At some point the human toll will be too costly to go on and we will have no choice but to pull out.
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