I would like to address the issue of which bible is most accurate....The answer is so easy when you look at the real information....The Authorised K.J.V. IS WITHOUT DOUBT GODS INFALLIBLE word given to mankind...which many have corrupted and hoodwinked multitudes....The k.j.v.bought the world out of the dark ages.Now with its demise and Satan not taking it away.He has confused so many believe the great lie he has successfully sown into The body of Christ and destroyed many lives.....The choice is so easy..do you believe in the one manuscript that westcottt and horte supported...such learned men?.Ha they believe in Purgatory....Founded the Legion Of Mary[ making Mary CO-Mediator with Christ] organisation and denied a tri-une Godhead.....just for starters....yet the R.S.V. was the gold standard of bibles when it arrived.They sowed doubt on the integrity of The K.J.V...useing one lie after another to support their claims......most bible versions come from the erronius text of westcott and horte...which actually was not theirs but it was produced in Alexandria in Egypt..at the school of the gnostics....thats the text that 99percent of bible translations come from.....but historical truth can easily bought into question by some one with a computer and can slowly but surely put doubt into Truth and the ones who try to google and searh useing other searh sites are even more confused. we should look at the bible itself and ask why differences are all anti-the K.J.V....SO LETS LOOK AT SOME OF THEM.1John5;7...is famous as it says in most other bibles a footnote saying the verse was not in earliest or best manuscripts.....Of course they never tell you exactly which manuscripts...WHY?...easy...there isnt any such manuscripts except the 618 textus receptus manuscripts that are where the K.J.V.comes from......so what I am saying is the truth of the matter is do you believe the 618 textus receptus manuscripts that say what the K.J.V.says or the one manuscript from Egypt printed in the fourth century by the gnostics that dont believe in Jesus as part of the Godhead....easy.out of mouth of two or three witnesses.....oh yes westcott hortes manuscript was called textus vaticanus[when i was young..till the catholics saw we could use that verse and christians would never tolerate useing a textus vaticanus manuscript....so they just got on line and started swallowing up the truth and now no more textus vaticanus....on line..they say its an obscure manuscript locked up in Vatican......sure,but till about 20 years ago it was public knowledge..not now..I intend to go on and give much more so sharpen up your swords and prepare to dislike Reg Woodbridge even more....who cares if I leave out spaces...dont use spellcheck....dont write educated enough....well some on this site do....but why not come along and maybe learn somthings you need to know....Look at psalm12;6-7...in k.j.v.and other bibles..and compare2Corinthians2;17...and Revelation22;19......the N.I.V.doesnt know difference betwwen a book and a tree...silly if you get cast out of the book...you go to hell...Revelation20;15...Virginia Mollenkot who oversaw that work was a lesbian and had her mother as her spirit guide.....but of course thats been computer info changed to......so what your going to have to do is start deciding why all the textual criticism is only against one bible.......The word of god...without blemish...Even Acts12.4...the word easter is no mistake.......if you were real smart you would see why.........if not I will tell you next time...from Reg Woodbridge...A true believer.
the easy answer to which bible is the real one
Discussion in 'Other Discussions' started by Rginald Woodbridge, Apr 20, 2016.
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Oh the misinformation is so glaring it's kind of funny. It's interesting how people just buy into the conspiracy theories and don't actually look at the truth - that God is good, God is sovereign and God has been able to keep His Word through the ages - before 1611 and since. He didn't suddenly go to work in the 17th century and then sit back and think "Well, that's good enough." Praise God for the great men and women who have worked tirelessly to make sure that we have the most accurate rendering of the Word of God in our language and in other languages as well. We have one of them on this board and I've seen the hard agonizing work he's done to just translate one book and how the love of God's Word has brought an accurate translation to the Japanese people.
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Had a thought. I guess groups like Wycliffe Bible Translatiors and people like the gentleman Annsni mentioned (I think I know who) are wasting their time.
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2) Which KJV do you currently read, the 1611 or the 1769
3) Is there any concern that the translators were Anglican?
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I have not seen such an elegant defense of the KJV in all my life. Bravo Rginald!
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Please, try to get at least one of your points right. So far you are batting 0. -
You really shouldn't knock the other versions that good, godly and sound in the faith believers employ. I happen to like the YLT, ESV, NASBU, KJV, NKJV.
You may also want to read The King James Only Controversy by Dr. James White, it is a good solid factual read and will educate you on the issue. :) -
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"The Authorized Version, as it came to be called, went through several editions and revisions. Two notable editions were that of 1629, the first ever printed at Cambridge, and that of 1638, also at Cambridge, which was assisted by John Bois and Samuel Ward, two of the original translators. In 1657, the Parliament considered another revision, but it came to naught. The most important editions were those of the 1762 Cambridge revision by Thomas Paris, and the 1769 Oxford revision by Benjamin Blayney. One of the earliest concrdances was A Concordance to the Bible of the Last Translation, by John Down-ham, affixed to a printing of 1632."
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So much error, so little time to correct it all.
Old Testament Company.
The Right Rev. Edward Harold Brown, D. D., Bishop of Winchester (Chairman), Farnham Castle, Surrey.
The Right Rev. Lord Athur Charles Hervey, D. D., Bishop of Bath and Wells, Palace, Wells, Somerset.
The Right Rev. Alfred Ollivant, D. D., Bishop of Llandaff, Bishop's Court, Llandaff.
The Very Rev. Robert Payne Smith, D. D., Dean of Canterbury, Deanery, Canterbury.
The Ven. Benjamin Harrison, M. A., Archdeacon of Maidstone, Canon of Canterbury, Canterbury.
The Rev. William Lindsay Alexander, D. D., Professor of Theology, Congregational Church Hall, Edinburgh.
Robert L. Bensly, Esq., Fellow and Hebrew Lecturer, Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge.
The Rev. John Birrell, Professor of Oriental Languages, St. Andrew's, Scotland.
Frank Chance, Esq., M. D., Burleigh House, Sydenham Hill, London.
Thomas Chenery, Esq., Reform Club, London, S. W.
The Rev. T. K. Cheyne, Fellow and Hebrew Lecturer, Balliol College, Oxford.
The Rev. A. B. Davidson, D. D., Professor of Hebrew, Free Church College, Edinburgh.
The Rev. George Douglas, D. D., Professor of Hebrew and Principal of Free Church College, Glasgow.
S. R. Driver, esq., Tutor of New College, Oxford.
The Rev. C. J. Elliott, Win-kfield Vicarage, Windsor.
The Rev. Frederick Field, D. D., Carlton Terrace, Heigham, Norwich.
The Rev. John Dury Geden, Professor of Hebrew, Wesleyan College, Didsbury, Manchester.
The Rev. Christian D. Ginsburg, LL.D., Workingham, Berks.
The Rev. Frederick William Gotch, D. D., Principal of the Baptist College, Bristol.
The Rev. William Kay, D. D., Great Leghs' Rectory, Chelmsford.
The Rev. Stanley Leathes, D. D., Professor of Hebrew, King's College, London.
The Rev. Professor J. R. Lumby, D. D., Fellow of St. Catharine's College, Cambridge.
The Very Rev. John James Stewart Perowne, D. D., Dean of Peterborough, Deanery, Peterborough.
The Rev. A. H. Sayce, Fellow and Tutor of Queen's College, Oxford.
The Rev. William Robertson Smith, Professor of Hebrew, Free Church College, Aberdeen.
William Wright, LL. D., Professor of Arabic, Cambridge.
William Aldis Wright Esq. (Secretary), Bursar of Trinity College, Cambridge.
New Testament Company.
The Right Rev. Charles John Ellicott, D. D., Bishop of Gloucester and Bristol (Chairman), Palace, Gloucester.
The Right Rev. George Moberly, D. C. L., Bishop of Salisbury, Palace, Salisbury.
The Very Rev. Edward Henry Bickersteth, D. D., Prolocutor, Dean of Lichfield, Deanery, Lichfield.
The Very Rev. Arthur Penrhyn Stanley, D. D., Dean of Westminster, Deanery, Westminster.
The Very Rev. Robert Scott, D. D., Dean of Rochester, Deanery, Rochester.
The Very Rev. Joseph Williams Blakesley, B. D., Dean of Lincoln, Deanery, Lincoln.
The Most Rev. Richard Chenevix Trench, D. D., Archbishop of Dublin, Palace, Dublin.
The Right Rev. Joseph Lightfoot, D. D., LL.D., Bishop of Durham.
The Right Rev. Charles Wordsworth, D. C. L., Bishop of St. Andrew's, Bishopshall, St. Andrew's.
The Rev. Joseph Angus, D. D., President of the Baptist College, Regent's Park, London.
The Rev. David Brown, D. D., Principal of the Free Church College, Aberdeen.
The Rev. Fenton John Anthony Hort, D. D., Fellow of Emmanual College, Cambridge.
The Rev. William Gilson Humphry, Vicarage, St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, London, W. C.
The Rev. Benjamin Hall Kennedy, D. D., Canon of Ely and Regius Professor of Greek, The Elms, Cambridge.
The Ven. William Lee, D. D., Archdeacon of Dublin, Dublin.
The Rev. William Milligan, D. D., Professor of Divinity and Biblical Criticism, Aberdeen.
The Rev. William F. Moulton, D. D., Master of the Leys School, Cambridge.
The Rev. Samuel Newth, D. D., Principal of New College, Hampstead, London.
The Ven. Edwin Palmer, D. D., Archdeacon of Oxford, Christ Church, Oxford.
The Rev. Alexander Roberts, D. D., Professor of Humanity, St. Andrew's.
The Rev. Frederick Henry Ambrose Scrivener, LL.D., Prebendary, Hendon Vicarage, London, N. W.
The Rev. George Vance. Smith, D. D., Parade, Carmarthen.
The Rev. Charles John Vaughan, D. D., Master of the Temple, The Temple, London, E. C.
The Rev. Brooke Foss Westcott, D. D., Canon of Peterborough and Regius Professor of Divinity, Trinity College, Cambridge.
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The American Revision Committee.
Philip Schaff, D. D., LL.D., President of the General Committee.
George E. Day, D. D., Secretary.
Old Testament Company.
Professor Wm. Henry Green, D. D., LL.D. (Chairman), Theological Seminary, Princeton, N. J.
Professor George E. Day, D. D. (Secretary), Divinity School of Yale College, New Haven, Conn.
Professor Charles A. Aiken, D. D., Theological Seminary, Princeton, N. J.
The Rev. T. W. Chambers, D. D., Collegiate Reformed Dutch Church, N. Y.
Professor Thomas J. Conant, D. D., Brooklyn, N. Y.
Professor John De Witt, D. D., Theological Seminary, New Brunswick, N. J.
Professor George Emlen Hare, D. D., LL.D., Divinity School, Philadelphia.
Professor Charles P. Krauth, D. D., LL.D., Vice-Provost of the University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia.
Professor Charles M. Mead, D. D., Theological Seminary, Andover, Mass.
Professor Howard Osgood, D. D., Theological Seminary, Rochester, N. Y.
Professor Joseph Packard, D. D., Theological Seminary, Alexandria, Va.
Professor Calvin E. Stowe, D. D., Hartford, Conn. Professor James Strong, S. T. D., Theological Seminary, Ma-dison, N. J.
Professor C. V. A. Van Dyck, LL.D., D. D., M. D., Beirut, Syria. (Advisory Member on questions of Arabic.)
New Testament Company.
Ex-President Theodore D. Woolsey, D. D., LL.D. (Chairman), New Haven, Conn.
Professor J. Henry Thayer, D. D. (Secretary), Theological Seminary, Andover, Mass.
Professor Ezra Abbot, D. D., LL.D., Divinity School, Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass.
The Rev. J. K. Burr, D. D., Trenton, N. J.
President Thomas Chase, LL.D., Haverford College, Pa.
Chancellor Howard Crosby, D. D., LL.D., New York University, New York.
Professor Timothy Dwight, D. D., Divinity School of Yale College, New Haven, Conn.
Professor A. C. Kendrick, D. D., LL.D., University of Rochester, Rochester, N. Y.
The Right Rev. Alfred Lee, D. D., Bishop of the Diocese of Delaware.
Professor Matthew B. Riddle, D. D., Theological Seminary, Hartford, Conn.
Professor Philip Schaff, D. D., LL. I)., Union Theological Seminary, New York.
Professor Charles Short, LL.D. (Secretary), N. Y.
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So, you are still batting 0. Want to try again? Here, just a little more info for you.
When comparing the 1611 edition to the 1769 edition (which you use) you will find 421 changes. Of that number 136 are considered "changes of substance" which change the meaning of the text. -
I'm guessing I have the Oxford 1769 edition?
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You do. :)
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Thank!! I don't use this for regular study because it's getting pretty fragile. But I've gotta say, I like the larger print!! :D
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Well, if truth be told, my preaching KJV is large print (but not GIANT print) so I can see it as it lays on the pulpit. :)
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Please, try to get at least one point correct.
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