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Featured The Fuss Over The Name of Jesus

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by DrJamesAch, Jun 28, 2013.

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  1. HisWitness

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    explain why its IOSHUA instead of IESOUS in the original 1611 KJV ????
     
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    That is not what it says.
     
  3. HisWitness

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    Titles are not the name

    for instance if my name was Leroy and I was a Genius ---and others related me to being The Smart One

    The Smart One is a title relating to the name Leroy

    Leroy --the Smart One

    YAH-The Holy One
    YAH-The First and Last
    YAH-The I AM

    see friend how to apply titles to the actual NAME
     
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    I know nothing about Greek or Hebrew, but I do know this. Jesus Christ is my Savior. He is the Son of God, and is God. He chose me, loved me, and suffered extreme pain both physically and spiritually for my sin and the nonsense in my life. He gave me the Holy Spirit to guide me through my life, although I do not follow Him always. It is by the grace of God through faith I am headed for eternity with Him. I do not care if someone calls him the Purple People Eater. He is the love of my life, and I owe everything, every breath to Him.
     
  5. convicted1

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    Now, this is baptist distinctives right here.....minus the "purple people eater". I would be offended if someone referred to Him that way, myself. I owe Him way more than I have ever given Him, or ever will.
     
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    A poor way of showing that many are resting their salvation in a name and not in the essence of Jesus. I am going to call Him Jesus Christ, Wonderful, Counsoler, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, as long as I can draw a breath.
     
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    And what was Jesus' name before He came to earth?
     
  8. HisWitness

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    the same as it has always been.
     
  9. HisWitness

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    has everyone looked at the true scripture here and see plainly its IOSHUA and NOT IESOUS

    they had it right ---why would they go in and change it ?????

    SOUS does NOT mean the same as SHUA in relating to the meaning of the name of YAH's Son and doesn't even have the right sounding to it.
     
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    What do you mean true Scripture? Are you suggesting that the Greek term for Jesus is not Iesous?
     
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    did you even look at the link that shows you right out of the original KJV 1611 that the word is IOSHUA NOT IESOUS used for Joshua ??????
     
  12. Gabriel Elijah

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    So your suggesting the 1611 is preferable over the original Greek? Why would this be true? And btw the sight you keep linking has a virus according to my computer virus protection—so I’m not going there anytime soon--sorry
     
  13. HisWitness

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    mmm I went there fine--but its still in the KJV 1611 plainly--why do men need to keep going there and changing things ????
     
  14. HisWitness

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    Pagans changed Esther's name
    changed Daniel's name
    Changed the 3 Hebrew children's names
    and others also


    and the sad thing is that we quote the pagan names that carries forth their pagan god's meanings and traditions in them

    And we don't even realize it :tear::tear::tear:
     
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    Despite the problem with the link (which honestly my virus protection is set on high so maybe its oversensitive)—I have several computer programs that have the 1611 so I have no problem viewing it—but you seem to be suggesting that the 1611 is the original autograph & that the original NT was written in Old English—if this is not the case—then why in the world would anyone refer to the 1611 if they have the ability to read Greek for themselves? Are you a KJV only supporter? And have you ever studied how the LXX was complied & the use of transliteration for personal names?
     
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    I am asking why did they take the shua off the end and replace it with something that sounds like the pagan god that they worshipped Zeus

    shua has the original sounding and meaning
    the middle S in jesus sounds like a Z sounding instead of a S

    The pagans done this through the whole bible--changing names to fit their gods and traditions so that their people would think that there gods hath done what YAH the Elohim of Israel was doing.

    the pagans were afraid their people would be converted to YAH when they seen all that YAH was doing---so they changed names and traditions to stick their gods and traditions in with the True traditions and names of the Israelites ---thus making it appear to their own people that their gods were the cause of it.

    you see these same pattern through out the whole bible OT and NT.
     
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    In other words, HW is saying none of us are saved because we called on a name that has no saving authority.

    HW is not Baptist. No Baptist would have levied the accusation he did against us.
     
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    Ya think? :laugh:

    I cannot understand why he is allowed to post in the Baptist only section.
     
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    What makes you think you are right?
    Billy Sunday, in a sermon, "Wonderful," quoted in The Real Billy Sunday.
     
  20. HisWitness

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    what you are referring unto is TITLES and NOT a NAME

    YAH--The Great I AM
    YAH-The First and Last



    NAME=YAH
    TITLES=the Great I AM---The First and Last

    you refer to all them titles---BUT YAH is his NAME :thumbs::thumbs:

    or in the Son's case as YAHSHUA
     
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