Would you pray?
The Lord Looks Down & Shakes His Head
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by HAMel, Feb 7, 2010.
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"Nothing that grieves us can be called little: by the eternal laws of proportion a child's loss of a doll and a king's loss of a crown are events of the same size." Mark Twain -
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No matter how trivial a prayer request seems to us, we should not judge it, period. No one should be made to feel they cannot make their request because it might seem trivial or cold compared to other requests. -
Besides, God knows what we need before we even ask, so was it necessary to present it to the entire church at that moment? -
Besides, the thread title "The Lord looks down and shakes His head" is quite presumptuous. The thread starter does not know that nor should he or others assume it. -
You and several others don't thoroughly read my posts. I didn't say the request shouldn't be made, I said the TIMING was bad - and the timing WAS bad. My church is a wonderful church, so don't insult it.
I am a 3 year cancer survivor, and my church prayed for me. But if I had died, would they assume that prayer wasn't answered? Of course not, we don't know what God's plan is. But I had a hard time asking for prayer because I know of others who have much tougher situations and it took me a while to ask for prayer. -
preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
When we ask for prayer requests from our groups small or large, we (as a staff) almost always add the cavaet..."for your immediate family and friends"
People are good hearted about prayer requests and simply don't realize that they can derail the movement with stuff like this. We also got tired of having our prayer services derailed by "um...I'd like for you to prayer for my bosses second cousin's niece's husband's uncle who has xzy"
We appreciate the heart and spirit of the request, certainly. We also want to validate the time spent in prayer. :)
btw, I think God is too busy shaking his head at me than to worry about others :) -
look at a bunch of men telling God whats too trival, and condeming people for praying.
If I were sick and dying or had died and paryer was asked, I wouldn't want anyone else to think what they care about was trival to God, or that they had no business with a prayer request. -
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No believer is more important to God than another and so all should feel welcome to make requests. -
I hope to never tell one of my children anything about them was too trival. why would that be God's opinion about us? LOL, It isn't it's man's ungodly opinion, not based on scripture.
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preachinjesus Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Do you believe God cares who wins football games? I see lots of athletes praying during those...
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I was sticking to the OP topic when I wrote my comments. -
God has created all the living even dogs, cats and us. God loves all his creation, even the rodden ones. The Dog is just as much in need as any when it comes to Gods mercy and grace. Maybe the family that got the dog was poor and the man knew that it was a hardship and a great lose for them. The reason we pray is not to get God involved really it is to get us out of the way most often. God knows the need and has already answered. Prayer is about us coming to know how limited we are and how dependant we are on God. When we pray we have to lay down our pride and admit how small we are in the big picture. Prayer in affect keeps us humble in the sight of God. I would conclude he may have been ask for prayer for the animal. So we judge no prayer request. We simple ask the Lord to hear the plea.
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God personally creates every animal just as He personally creates every person. He tells us He is aware of every sparrow that falles to the earth.
And God is concerned about EVERYTHING that causes our heart to ache...including when our beloved pets are sick and could die.
It is thoroughly scriptural to pray for people grieving the loss of an animal, and to pray FOR the animal. -
Doth God take care for oxen? 1 Cor. 9:9
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Nowhere do we see in the bible to pray for animals. We do see where we are to pray for the church, etc. The discerning would hear a request made for the dog and know it was really the emotional state of the family that needed prayer. To place animals in the same catagory of needing equal mercy and grace as mankind? I think I'm beginning to see creature worship starting to surface and that worship is a link to paganism. Praying for the dog by comparison is trivial, not praying for the emotional wellbeing of the owners is uncaring. Animals and people on the same level? "I command all trees, animals, men,etc. to repent!" just doesn't sound quite right, sounds trivial.
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An argument from exclusion is not proof that it is wrong to pray for animals. We aren't commanded to pray for the electricity to come on after a bad storm either, but I daresay some have prayed for that.
Granted there are more important things in life than "pets" but if something is wrong with my dog and it is bothering me then I don't think God is going to be too upset if I talk to Him about it.
And don't take the ridiculous leap from that to animal worship... Oops, I see that has already happened.:rolleyes:
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