(BB is acting sooo weird for me the last few days... )
edited by me.
This just makes me angry!
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Oct 27, 2009.
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His ignorance is astounding...
To burn a Bible is the stupidest, most ignorant, thing this type of moron can do!... Thank God he only has 14 members...
I hope God destroys his "church"... because it is only a cult!
(BTW.. rules only apply to treatment of members of BB, and unless he is on here, then we can call him a cultist... I would face to face anyway!... ... calling a false ministry a cult is the God honoring thing to do) -
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This preacher reminded me of Mark Twain's line:
"Tis better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -
Hello annsni
You said.......
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Next you said.......
No one that uses these modern versions, can know for sure what God’s word actually says.
Invariably, everyone that using them, almost always uses more than one, because none of them say the exact same thing.
Therefore they are left to figure out on their own, what God is really saying.
I don’t trust myself, therefore I use the KJV. Therefore I know what God’s Word says.
It is just like the old saying, “A man that has one watch, knows what time it is, but a man with two watches, never knows.”
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As I said before, the MV’s have harmed the Church, and this harm has come, by confusing God’s people about what God actually said. -
Don't take the lazy way out... Open up some Bibles and compare.. learn Greek, learn Hebrew.. in this day and age there is no excuse for not diving into the Bible...
BTW... I also know what God's Word says in the NIV too...
Sounds like you are scared of finding out you may be wrong, so you are refusing to open your mind to learning. -
Hello tinytim
It is nice to hear from you.
You make my point exactly.
You said........
There is only one God, and He gave us only one record.
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Comparing the MV’s to the KJV, is like asking Westcott and Hort what they think.
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My own children have never read the KJV and each one of them have had their hearts turned towards God and are following Him. My oldest two are strong believers even while in high school and college - in the places where God is mocked yet they stand strong. My 9 year old has been reading his NIV and wants to be baptized because that's what Jesus commands him to in His word. My little one loves to read the Word and ask questions about what she's read. She is also reading the NIV.
I know there is someone here (I can't remember who) who has led hundreds to the Lord using the NIV. I wish I could remember who it is.
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Makes me sad, more than angry (but don't get me in a dark alley with "pastor" grizzard)
The BB does not allow us to flippantly use words like "cult" or "heretic". We suggest "sect" and "damnable false doctrine".
They all fit this sad bunch of losers (losers is an acceptable word) in North Carolina that would so disdain God's Word. -
But Dr. Bob.. this is not a case of "flippantly" using this word.
Burning Bibles makes him a cult leader, and a heretic. He is blaspheming the Word of God, by burning them..
In this case it is a cult, and he is a heretic. I say that in the most conservative way I can.
Anyone that wants to burn a Bible, and then say he is called to preach is a heretic.
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Hello annsni
Thank you for responding.
And I praise the Lord that you and your family are getting such a blessing, as you use the NIV.
But this is not what I asked for.
You talked about all the “good things”, that have come about, because of the MV’s.
And I am sure, that if you and your family had been using the KJV all of this time, that your report would have been just as glorious.
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But you also said.......
The MV’s remove entire verses and whole passages, from the Bible.
Now the question might be asked, “can someone worship the LORD and be blessed in their study of His Word, with only a portion of the Bible?”
Of course they can.
But that doesn’t mean that this is to be preferred.
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Also you said......
And we should be upset, if even “one word” is removed or changed.
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I couldn’t believe your next statement........
It is because of what we find in the Bible.
And if we have come to the point, where there are so many versions out there, that we simply give up on trusting any of them, how do we know if anything that we believe is true?!?
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When I said that I didn’t trust myself, you said.....
This is a conscious decision that I have made, base on what the Bible says........
Jeremiah 17:9-10
V.9 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?
V.10 I the LORD search the heart, try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings.
You would be smart, not to trust yourself either.
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You conclude, with your praise, of the main culprit in this whole issue.
“textual criticism”
Rather than simply studying God’s Word, and believing it by faith;
We are being taught a way, that by-passes faith, and brings it into our control.
None of us, are qualified to critique God’s Word.
Romans 11:33
“O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!”
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Would you please define MV? It seems to be related to the defense of this person. Maybe I should know the term, but I don't, and see no redeeming quality in what he is doing. -
Good morning saturneptune
MV’s, stands for Modern Bible Versions, and I personally define a Modern Bible version, as any English Bible, that was edited after the year 1881. -
KJVOists use the term "MV" to refer to any translation issued after the KJV edition of ther choice. It's an inconsistent and inaccurate use of the term, since many translations that KJVOists reject are not modern.
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Like I said, KJVOists are predictably inconsistent with the definition of "MV".
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