UFOs

becasue God is the creator of the universe.

 

Could UFOs also be used as a way the Anti-Christ can explain away the rapture when it occurs?

As in the days of Noah? What all happened during that time which would cause Jesus to make reference to that period of time and those events? Could that comment be linked to UFOs?

 

I've heard that this will be one of the explanations.

 

Oh I'm sure it's one possible way, anything to lead people away from beleivieng in Jesus.

 

I believe 100% in UFO's. Without question they are among us.

I just don't believe in intellegent alien life forms operating UFO's. :laugh:

There may be alien life out there, such as bacteria and such. But not "intellegent life" as in the movie version nor large salavating man hungry creatures either.

"My what shape teeth you have."


UFO - Unidentified Flying Object (not alien space craft)
UFO = Secret Government Craft

 

Is it unscriptural for intelligent life to exist on other planets? I don't know if it is or not, but for the sake of argument, let's say it is. Then I'd have to say there is no bacteria on other planets, either. I'd have to believe in biogenesis and evolution (more specifically, macroevolution) to suggest that alien bacteria exists.

 

Yes, that is what the op is about. You said there are no being on other planets. A being (which I assume you mean life) on other planets and UFOs here are two different subjects. I agree with you pretty much about the things people have experienced here. They are probably demonic.

 

And through what reasoning do you come to such a position.

So form your "let's say" point of view, if they prove bacteria is in space then they have proven evolution?

 

Oh, yeah...please explain how the blog got to earth :D

 

If someone proves that bacteria found in space came from an extra-terrestrial origin, they would prove that life exists outside earth. It doesn't prove anything about creation or evolution. It would prove that it's not unbiblical for life to exist outside earth, though.

 

... and God created us, and we created the Blackhawk, and when that thing flew in secret, it was a UFO to us, unless you had some very special military clearance. How does this scenario relate to anything biblical? My point is that just because UFO's exist doesn't mean that there are little green/gray men from other planets driving the things.

 

I had one encounter with what I thought was a UFO a long time ago at least while it was happening. I was very good at running track, even made it to nationals. I would train on a dirt road behind our house, often at night. We owned the land and I was a country boy and the road was smooth so I had nothing to fear. It was 200 yards long from our house back to this patch of woods. The road then snaked around the woods to go back to some oil wells but you couldn't see past this patch of woods if you were on the main strip that I was training on. I would run back and forth, doing 200 yard sprints then resting before doing it again.

So after a few sprints, I end up near the woods and I stop to rest for a few minutes, I was very close to the trees, 20 feet away maybe. I start to take off again but the area around me started getting lighter. All of a sudden some kind of flying craft slowly came hovering over the edge of the trees, shining a very powerful light down on the ground. The light went over the edge of the trees, and at this time I got a glimpse of it for a few seconds while I stood there in shock. It was like a helicopter except it was solid black and very big. I could not hear it, the only reason I knew it was there was because of the light. It was only maybe 10 feet above the trees, hovering very slowly, and I was 20 feet away from these same trees. If it was something like a simple black Chinook, I would have heard it from a long way away, but not only that, the trees would have been violently shaking... but no, nothing but light and silence. A helicopter can't exactly sneak up on you like that at night when it's pitch black out on a quiet farm in the country.

When the light almost got to me I freaked out and sprinted as fast as I could back to the house. I was yelling along the way so my mom heard and came outside once I got there. It was going so slow that we could turn around and watch it. She was so scared she almost collapsed and could only ask "is it going to shoot?" Our back patio is only maybe 30 yards from the dirt road that it was hovering over very low, yet there was no massive noise, we could hear something but we could very easily talk to each other, was almost like a constant quiet hum. Something as massive as a Chinook would not have let us do this, would have been way too noisy. Anyway, we watched it leave, and that was the last of it. We tried to see what exactly it was as it was leaving, and yes it still seemed like a massive helicopter, at least the shape of it, but due to it being solid black and having very bright lights at the bottom, I could not see the top of it, I could not see any propeller blades or anything like that. I could see it for probably another half a mile until it went over another ridge line with trees on it but it was going so slow it took a few minutes. I mean, I could outrun this thing.

Looking back, I'm not sure what I saw. I've always assumed it was a prototype military helicopter but I'm not sure. The place they were flying was a standard military helicopter training route for Fort Campbell in Kentucky, and they flew near the house all the time, but this was different. It was MUCH slower, MUCH lower, happened MUCH later, had MUCH more lighting, it wasn't painted the same (solid black vs. olive green with lettering), it was MUCH larger than anything I've seen except for a Chinook, was MUCH quieter, and it didn't disturb the trees. It doesn't make any sense. Any known aircraft that big that low and that slow that is airborne off of downward air propulsion would have shaken the trees extremely hard. I've got no choice but to label it as a UFO, but I can guarantee that it wasn't a figment of my imagination, and I have a hard time believing that it was an act of demons. It was definitely a machine.

I had considered the possibility that it was a Harrier that was traveling with its thrusters down for practice, but those things absolutely scream, and the thrust would have been worse than a helicopter. There's no way that a Harrier could have snuck up on me. Check out this video of one if you haven't seen one in action, it's wild, it's an airplane but it can hover and even go backwards.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HbzSp9aXXuc

 

I'm sure the gov't has more toys and flying crafts than we will ever know. How ironic these always occur at night.

 

If there is not living beings on Mars here on earth, how do you explain Janet Reno?

 

I have seen a UFO three times in my life. My son was just sitting in his hot tub the other night (talking to me on the phone) and saw one streak across the sky (faster than a jet), backtrack on the same path, streak back the same path about halfway and then disappear. (He was describing this and screaming in my ear while this was happening!) There are too many accounts from airline pilots to not believe they don't exist.

I believe they are demonic because the Bible says Satan is the Prince and Power of the Air...for now.

 

My sister and I saw one when we were kids. It definitely did not display the behavior of a man-made object. That doesn't mean it wasn't man-made, but it didn't behave like anthing we knew about then (or know about today, either). It didn't "streak" or move fast, but it did weird things like stop, hover, change directions, etc. (No, it was way too high and small to be a helicopter.)

 

People in the outer limits [of their minds] believe in UFO's operated by extraterrestrial intelligence.

 

AMEN AMEN AMEN!

 

Jim, you took the thoughts right out of my mind. Great choice of scripture to back up your point. :applause:

 

I have often heard the possible connection here with Genesis 6, specifically in regards to the "sons of god" procreating with the daughters of men and the resulting race of giants (Gen 6:4). Note to whomever: Please don't bother arguing the foolish wresting of scripture here, claiming these to be the descendents of Seth -- you would simply be wasting your precious brain cells.

Although Dr. Ruckman is fervently hated my bost Christians (who spout off love, love, love - just not towards other Christians mind ye!), he does have some interesting material on the subject of UFO's. Dr. Ruckman does some studies on popular topics or questions that he doesn't claim to be exact or definite, they are simply interesting studies into different possibilities, which is what we are doing here.