US church defiant despite condemnation of Koran burning

Is this guy that different than Jeremiah Wright?

The Demoncrats had no problem with his hate preaching.

 

I think Terry Jones should go back to Germany and take Jeremiah Wright with him. :thumbs:

 

I have watched this unfold with interest. Do I agree with the actions of this man and those that are following him? No. Do I have a problem with seeing a koran burned? No. But it is interesting to see the world's reaction to this.

America has the opportunity to demonstrate what it means to live in real freedom. Folks, we are talking about 50 people in a world of 6 billion having a little bonfire in their backyard.

And what if it were the Bible? Would Christians take to the streets and threaten violence against innocent people and burn effigies of Mohammed and Islamic flags? No.

It's time for the world to look and see. What does following the koran lead the people into? What does following the Bible lead the people into? If the so-called extreme element of following the Bible is this pastor who burns someone's book and thinks their religion is evil.

The real telling sign here is the Muslim reaction to this. Not what this pastor is doing.

 

Wait until he gets the idea to burn the Book of Mormon. Then the fun will start.

 

Phelps, Jones, and Spamderson... wouldn't that be an interesting circus?

 

Thank God for all three. Where's our sanctimonious President pontificating on religious freedom now?

 

The administration has been clear that this sociopath has a legal right to burn the Koran.

 

My church teaches that all religions are wrong except for Christianity, but none of the pastors have advocated burning the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Analects, Tripitaka, etc. I think Terry Jones is doing it just to get attention and he doesn't seem to care who gets hurt.

 

According to the news just now, Jones has changed his mind and will not be burning the books. Instead, apparently he'll be going to New York to meet with the Imam involved in the mosque situation.

Personally, I'm glad he's not going to go through with it. I seriously questioned his motives.

 

What angers me is the response from Obama, that this will incite attacks on Americans, etc. as if to give Muslims an excuse to retaliate. There is NO EXCUSE for what the Muslims have done. None. Not doing something just to appease the Muslims is the wrong motivation. Now if Obama had the sense to point out that it would be easier to win the Muslims to Christ in a more peaceful manner, yeah, I might agree. But basically, he's wanting this guy to base his actions on fear of retaliation, and that annoys me greatly.

I wonder how many Christians in Iraq and Afghanistan are allowed to worship freely without being attacked, having their Bibles destroyed and their homes burned?

 

I'm not buying it. First off, it's only a minuscule number of Muslims that want to attack America. Secondly, OF COURSE there is no excuse for violent, unlawful terrorist acts, and no one, including the President said that there is. However, at a certain point you're just asking for trouble. There about 2 million Muslims in the United States. As a former Census worker, I know that about 2% of the population is crazy. That means that there about 40,000 crazy Muslims in the country. Odds are, if you do hateful things like burn the Koran, one of them will be crazy enough to retaliate. To illustrate, if a white person went in to the hood and started shouting racial epithets about black people, he will probably end up getting beat up. That doesn't mean it was right to beat him up, but as I said, at a certain point you're just asking for it.

 

Oh come on.

Do you REALLY expect an American president to talk about converting Muslims?

The fact of the matter is that Obama is correct. This will unnecessarily incite unstable and violent individuals. I'm thankful it won't be happening.

 

No, not this president anyway.

As far as him being correct, well, it doesn't take much to "incite" the Muslims. Anything can be used as an excuse, it seems. What it boils down to is that they are responsible for their own behavior. Just because someone does something stupid doesn't give them a license to retaliate, and just because they threaten to retaliate doesn't mean we should tip toe around in fear, either.

 

I'm seeing a trend that worries me.

Over the last few hours, the government has gotten more and more involved in this. Now, FBI agents are meeting with this pastor.

Look, this "pastor" is a goofball, at best. He ought to be ignored. But, he's got an audience and 15 minutes now...he's capitalizing.

But I'm worried. I think there's about to be an arrest, or a prohibition, against constitutionally protected (offensive, but protected) free speech.

Should this moron do what he's doing? Nope. But if he's arrested, or harrassed by our government--then we're not much better than those tinhorn "Islamic republics" regarding liberty.

Obama, Holder, et al-- be offended. But for goodness' sake, remember that we have a First Amendment. Not that you guys believe in it...but for once, could you all pretend?

 

That doesn't give them a license to retaliate, but provoking a violent group is just plain unwise. You can't intentionally anger a volatile group without expecting problems.