Quote me DHK, or prove yourself a liar......or better yet, retract your false remarks and then seek to find real answers instead of simply lying and slandering others and acting as a whited wall. :thumbsup:
What does this statement mean?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Moriah, Apr 24, 2012.
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I have a better idea. Instead of me going through myriads of threads and trying to pick a quote here and a quote there, why don't you simply tell me where I am right and where I am wrong, and why. Simple enough?
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The Biblicist Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
You are the one deceived if you actually think there is a THIRD class or MIDDLE class of people between those two. -
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Yeshua1 said: ↑God requires ALL who would be saved to accept jesus by faith!Click to expand...
You preach a false gospel, see ya at the Judgment ! -
You preach a false gospel, see ya at the Judgment ![/QUOTE]
I will be at the judgement of jesus for the works done while in my flesh, which One will you be at? -
The Biblicist said: ↑You have one messed up mind! The "anyone" is qualified by the condition "if...LOVES ME"! Lost people do not LOVE Christ as "love" is a fruit of the Spirit not a work of the flesh - Go read the works of the flesh versus the fruit of the Spirit listed for you by Paul in Galatians 5:17-19 and see if you can find "love" listed in the fruit of the flesh:Click to expand...
Jesus says even the wicked LOVE those who love them. Will you repent now?
The Biblicist said: ↑Gal. 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like:
Do you find it listed there Moriah????? Now read the list of the fruit of the Spirit:Click to expand...
As for Galatians 5:19 and the list of the works of the flesh, people do not come to know Christ while indulging in impurity, see Ephesians 4:18-24.
The Biblicist said: ↑You cannot have the fruit of the Spirit or "love" without first already having the Spirit of God in you or so says Paul:
Rom. 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
I put it in large letters because you seemingly cannot read to well.Click to expand...
The Biblicist said: ↑Rom. 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Since you are sort of hard of hearing and a poor reader, let me spell it out to you again.
1. "IF anyone LOVES me" is only possible for those who are first INDWELT by the Spirit of God as the LOVE OF GOD is produced in men by the indwelling Spirit of God (Rom. 5:5) and the lost man or those "in the flesh" cannot love God as love is not part of the works of the flesh!Click to expand...
The message is a powerful message, it is the word of God, it is the mystery revealed, it is how we get faith. For you to have been led astray, to teach others that getting a Bible and doing what Jesus says is somehow wrong or impossible, that is a horrific sin by you.
The Biblicist said: ↑2. Hence, the "anyone" is not lost, or those "in the flesh" as they are incapable of love for Christ as love for Christ is produced by the Spirit of God or the FRUIT of the Spirit (Gal. 5:19) and is not found in the works of "the flesh.":Click to expand... -
DHK: I have a better idea. Instead of me going through myriads of threads and trying to pick a quote here and a quote there, why don't you simply tell me where I am right and where I am wrong, and why. Simple enough?Click to expand...
HP: Are you kidding me? Simply overlook your lies and slander and simply give you something else to misuse and abuse? No way. You posted your lies and slander. Now back them up or retract them. Biblicist needs to do the same. -
Biblicist: You are the one deceived if you actually think there is a THIRD class or MIDDLE class of people between those two.Click to expand...
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Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you.
HP: DHK has led the clarion call to either quote where he said something or keep quiet. He demands that one does not paraphrase his words and use actual quotes. All I am asking is that he holds himself to the same standard he demands of others. Either quote where one has made a claim that compares to the charges one brings concerning another, or keep quiet. Does fairness demand any less?
The same goes for Biblicist. If you desire to say what another believes, either quote where the other has stated such a belief or keep quiet. :thumbsup: -
HP says:
Quote me DHK, or prove yourself a liar......or better yet, retract your false remarks and then seek to find real answers instead of simply lying and slandering others and acting as a whited wall.Click to expand...
But no one knows what he is talking about.
What is the false remark?
Where did I say HP is a bluebird? Just what are you specifically referring to, and don't refer to my post that has general information. Be specific. What specific charges are you referring to. List them.
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The Biblicist Well-Known MemberSite SupporterMoriah said: ↑You believe your total depravity teachers, but you do not believe Jesus. Jesus plainly says that if anyone loves me they will obey. You are like those in the world who think they are wise, you miss the Truth because you take pride in all your studying.
Jesus says even the wicked LOVE those who love them. Will you repent now?
Again, Jesus says even the wicked love those who love them, see Matthew 5:46.
As for Galatians 5:19 and the list of the works of the flesh, people do not come to know Christ while indulging in impurity, see Ephesians 4:18-24.
If you humble yourself, if you repent for following falseness, if you stop rejecting the Truth, then there is hope for you.
Jesus says to get his teachings and obey them. We do not even have to understand why we are told to do what Jesus says to do, but if you do them, Jesus will make you understand. Abraham did not even know where he was going, but he obeyed God and went. Paul could not even see, but did what Jesus said to do.
The message is a powerful message, it is the word of God, it is the mystery revealed, it is how we get faith. For you to have been led astray, to teach others that getting a Bible and doing what Jesus says is somehow wrong or impossible, that is a horrific sin by you.
The Word of God says we have SINCERE love if we do what the Bible says to do. You do not know God. That is obvious.Click to expand... -
The Biblicist said: ↑It is a waste of time to even respond to people like Moriah, MP and SBM. They simply are without spiritual discerment to understand even the most simpliest of Bible truths. It does not matter how clear the evidence is they are wrong because they do not have eyes that see, ears that hear or a heart that accepts the word of God (Deut. 29:4). This is an exercise of futility.Click to expand...
Biblicist, examine your words. What you say about Jesus is proof that you are in error and know not the Truth. HP and I teach obedience to God’s Word, you teach a lay down and play dead method. You teach defiance to God.
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The Biblicist Well-Known MemberSite SupporterMoriah said: ↑Jesus says, “But wisdom is proved right by her actions." Matthew 11:19.
Biblicist, examine your words. What you say about Jesus is proof that you are in error and know not the Truth. HP and I teach obedience to God’s Word, you teach a lay down and play dead method. You teach defiance to God.
Wisdom is proved right by her actions…what actions are you advocating, Biblicist?Click to expand...
Your MO when Biblical evidence is presented to you is to attack the person presenting it - THIS IS WHAT YOU DO ALWAYS - You never address the evidence. -
The Biblicist said: ↑It is a waste of time to even respond to people like Moriah, MP and SBM. They simply are without spiritual discerment to understand even the most simpliest of Bible truths. It does not matter how clear the evidence is they are wrong because they do not have eyes that see, ears that hear or a heart that accepts the word of God (Deut. 29:4). This is an exercise of futility.Click to expand...
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the bib
You preach a false gospel just as HP and SBM does.Click to expand...
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
What does let them be accursed mean in the original here ? Break it down for us mr greek scholar ! -
savedbymercy said: ↑the bib
Well you do understand what Paul would say of those who preach a false Gospel don't you ? Read what he says Gal 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
What does let them be accursed mean in the original here ? Break it down for us mr greek scholar !Click to expand... -
savedbymercy said: ↑the bib
Well you do understand what Paul would say of those who preach a false Gospel don't you ? Read what he says Gal 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
What does let them be accursed mean in the original here ? Break it down for us mr greek scholar !Click to expand... -
The Biblicist said: ↑You preach a false gospel just as HP and SBM does. You pervert the Word of God just as HP and SBM does! You have had the truth presented clearly and the only thing you can do is attack the person presenting it but NEVER deal honestly or truthfully with what is presented.
Your MO when Biblical evidence is presented to you is to attack the person presenting it - THIS IS WHAT YOU DO ALWAYS - You never address the evidence.Click to expand...
Biblicist, examine your words. What you say about Jesus is proof that you are in error and know not the Truth. HP and I teach obedience to God’s Word, you teach a lay down and play dead method. You teach defiance to God.
Wisdom is proved right by her actions…what actions are you advocating, Biblicist? -
DHK said: ↑How can you say that when you are unable to give a testimony of how you were saved? A salvation testimony is essential to every person that names the name of Christ.Click to expand...
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