This thread is about pastors....so that would be off topic.
What's Wrong with Younger Pastors'???
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Sep 1, 2013.
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Yes
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No
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Yes, but please read my exlanation....
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No, because my pastor is older [please explain and give age]
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I've noticed this and heard it from others, but this isn't so at my church!
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The younger generation of pastors are not as friendly/socialable
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It makes no difference to me!
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No opinion....
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Here are my thoughts on this question/subject....
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This is more judgemental, and, and it should be kept to oneself!
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Nothing to do with laziness. Our ministry is the Word. Not sheep petting. We are specifically told NOT to leave the ministry of the Word for physical ministry pursuits (Acts 6). Social visitation is the job of the deacons.
A proper sermon requires 10-15 hours of preparation. If you are traditional Baptist church, you have three services (Sunday Morning, Evening, and Wednesday). It is likely, if your church is decent size, that a man is neglecting his family, or neglecting his BIBLICAL pastoral duties, if he spends his time visiting folks unbidden, every time they miss a couple of services. -
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Our church is in the 80 in attendance range, and it is fairly hard to keep up. I cannot imagine having 3 or 4 hundred more. -
Its exactly what is being talked about. No one wants to admit it. But I have seen it, time and time again. Evangelism is neglected for the sake of sheep petting. -
With that said, I notice that people don't want to be visited in their homes without any prior notice. I don't like it either. But if someone was active in the church, faithful in attendance and then started missing, I would think a phone call, which is a type of visitation, an email, a text would be entirely proper for the shepherd who really cares for the sheep. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Peter disowned Jesus 3 times at the most pivotal point. He wept bitterly. When Jesus re-commissioned him (Jn 21) Jesus gave him, as the "voice" and the "face" of the new church, 3 commands
Pasture the lambs - literally, lead the new believers into rich feeding of the Word
Shepherd the sheep - literally, do ALL the work of a shepherd to the mature believers
Pasture the sheep - literally, special emphasis on the Elder doing the feeding of ALL the flock
Peter caught the meaning. 30 years later he wrote, "Shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock."
Part of MY role as Elder is to be a "shepherd", with special emphasis on "feeding" the flock. I try to teach this to my men (who I pray God will raise up as elders to replace me). Shepherding DOES mean feeding, but involves chasing down the strays, patching up the wounded, etc. For an Elder NOT to do this is to fail in truly shepherding. -
The few folks we have who work on Sunday (my wife is one of them) can make our service since it is in the afternoon after they finish work, or between shifts. Most of our folks are college age and work third shift so an afternoon service works great for us. Then we also have a Sunday p.m. Bible study, a Wednesday p.m. Bible study, and a Thursday a.m. Bible study. -
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Going after the stray sheep is the job of the Holy Spirit, and of Christ. You don't see Paul chasing after Demas. -
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
(About five thousand men were there.) But he said to his disciples, "Have them sit down in groups of about fifty each." -
I can't just be the feeder of the sheep. They have other needs than just eating. But we will disagree so have a great Labor day! -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
That kinda schedule must take away time the Pastor needs to devote to his family & his own needs, correct.... and/or then you would require more people on the staff to facilitate these multiple services. Isnt this a drain (both physically & economically) on the Church? -
RD2, when the pastor DOES spend time with members, people easily get offended and jealous that so-and-so gets more time than they do, etc. It can become a reason for gossip and pastors and their wives have to be very careful not to show favoritism.
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