Where's the outrage?

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  1. Don Well-Known Member
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    EXACTLY.

    Dylan Roof is a domestic terrorist.
    Osama was an international terrorist.
    Hamas and the IRA are terrorist organizations.

    The shooter(s) in the Detroit situation identified in the opening post? Not terrorists. Criminals, plain and simple.

    But CTB's response to the opening post indicates anyone carrying a gun is a terrorist, or potential terrorist.

    The improper use of terminology on this board lately has been quite disturbing.
     
  2. Crabtownboy Well-Known Member
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    Yes, your lack of understanding is disturbing.

    The next one fits lots of far right wing groups.

     
  3. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Crickets...
     
  4. Don Well-Known Member
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    So who were the terrorists at the block party in Detroit? What political or social agenda were they supporting?
     
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    If you had been there would you have been terrified? Be honest now.
     
  6. InTheLight Well-Known Member
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    I agree with this. I would say the guy that had an armored van and shot up the Dallas Police HQ was a terrorist. Dylann Wolf wasn't.
     
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    Wolf is a murderer. Plain and simple.
     
  8. Don Well-Known Member
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    Actually, because of his manifesto and stated beliefs, he falls into the category of domestic terrorist. He murdered for a social equality statement.

    In my personal-be-it-ever-so-humble opinion, of course.
     
  9. Don Well-Known Member
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    Would you be terrified if your car was about to crash? Does that make your car a terrorist?

    The reaction of the victim doesn't cause the definition of "terrorist"; the motivation of the perpetrator does.

    I believe you're thinking of "terrified" and "terrifying," not "terrorism." I also think you're too proud to admit this.
     
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    ... and more importantly, he is an agent of evil, a cohort of the minions of the devil!
     
  11. Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Dylann Roof is a terrorist.
     
  12. Don Well-Known Member
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    Would you say the event from the opening post was the result of a terrorist?
     
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    Were those black guys who pulled Reginald Denny from his truck in Los Angeles in '93(?) and slammed a brick into his head terrorists?
     
  14. matt wade Well-Known Member

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    Zaac...do black lives matter less when the shooter is another black? Where is your outage against this situation in Detroit?
     
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    He's a murderer that killed out of hate,. He belongs to no organization, political or terroristic. He made no demands. He simply wants to kill black people.
     
  16. Don Well-Known Member
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    Hmmm....

    He killed for a socially-related agenda; but you're correct, not connected with any organization....

    Loosely, he fits within the label of domestic terrorist. I disagree with the "hate crime" category on general principle, but this one comes with an admission....I could meet you at "mass murderer"....
     
  17. Don Well-Known Member
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    Re-posting for CTB's response:
     
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    People have gotten hung up on the label "terrorist". The issue here is this whole comparing of who black people get killed by. There isn't the same outrage over the black-on-black killings as this latest incident, or the cop killings because these urban killings people like to throw up are either random (whether just an everyday robbing or whatever), or drug deals and other disputes gone bad. It's not one person trying to exterminate [or at least terrorize] another race (which would include the killer himself, of course).
    The people are aware of the urban crime problem. Most of them grew up with it, and some still live with it. So there are people addressing it! [below]

    (The next thing will likely be to put it on Sharpton and Jackson. Why aren't they out there more, like they are for white-on-black incidents? But who are they? Just media figures, basically! It's not even like most blacks "follow" them; they're just "there", from rising to fame in the past. You all yourselves [as conservatives] are the ones have said it countless times; they're just trying to stay "relevent". So why would you keep using them to scold "the black community" for "not addressing black problems"?)
    Again, it's like people are addressing a single individual, rather than millions of individuals.

    This whole issue is like a child saying "what about him?!" "So what someone killed your loved one because of your race; you all kill each other!" So a whole people are supposed to accept 'open season' on them because of what others in "the community" do?

    Imagine, a person gets robbed by one of these "urban criminals" everyone talks about, and then walks onto the next block, and gets shot by a cop or by this kid, and you come along and tell him "That's GOOD for you, because of that criminal back on the other block you just got robbed by. You should have commanded him to reform himself, but since you didn't you're complicit in his crime, and deserve the same consequences he does"!
    THAT is what you are essentially reasoning!

    And let's not forget people similarly still throwing up black-on-white crime. Every "conservative news" site story on this I'm now seeing, is followed by commenters saying lynching should be brought back, with pictures of nooses, even! But of course, they're the victims of the true "racists", the "race hustlers" playing "the race card" on them; right?

    In any case, here are a couple of articles addressing this "black on black crime" issue:


    [Or now, in this case, a lone vigilante, or whatever you want to call him].
     
  19. Zaac Well-Known Member

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    Yep.:thumbsup: I put them right in the category with the terrorist cops who are murdering unarmed black people.
     
  20. Zaac Well-Known Member

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    :applause::applause: