Is this the same PBS video that shows the steel supports as little skinny twigs instead of the massive structures they actually were? I'll have to watch it later right now it looks like we may be entering into martial law. Good news for you guys that think the U.S. constitution is the "terrorist's best friend".
Why did the WTC buildings collapse?
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Aug 4, 2006.
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Check out this photo of the 48 floor WTC7 as the second 110 floor tower falls:
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-wtc7-sm.jpg
On this page we find some WTC7 information:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=5&c=y
sourec: Popular Mechanics:
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We doan need no stinkin' logic
Ed, U trying to put holes in our conspyracy but it no gonna happen.
U hittin us wid logic?
We doan need no stinkin' logic!
G Bush now have billion y billions stashed at Cheney Rancho. He plan to take over European Onion and then be anti-cristo!. U can read about it in 1611 vurson of King Jamez (also read it in Spanglish vurson - easier to unnerstan).
Logic - snort. It doan meen nuttin! Right Pancho? -
You work for the federal government don't you? Let me guess either Homeland Security or the Pentagon's propaganda division right? :smilewinkgrin: -
So we're now to believe that the NIST (and young Benjamin Chertoff) suddenly found all this "extra evidence" after the building was already destroyed and only after other researchers started picking their report apart? C'mon Ed. :rolleyes:
Watch building seven collapse here.
The building fell as if it was a planned demolition. It fell straight down into it's own footprint. It didn't start falling apart where PM now says it was damaged. All the supports were taken out at the same time. -
Marcia said:poncho said:I call this evading the question. You can't give a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether the Wash. Post or NY Times published articles saying, "yes, there is evidence" for what you say. Instead, you want me to go through a "few thousand links." :sleep: Not in your dreams, Poncho!
So naturally, I conclude the answer to my question is "no."Click to expand...
No what you were doing is trying to discount any and all evidence that has been reported in the, as you call it "major media" by getting me to answer a silly question about two specific newspapers.
But to be a good sport and play along, no I don't believe that the Washington Post or the NYT has ever written any articles accusing the government of blowing up the WTC. Now, can we find articles they published in which we can add to the other evidence that has been uncovered in the MSM? Yes I believe we probably can.
The "major media" has many times reported on the government's use of false flag terrorism throughout the years, including the New York Times... http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-cia-index.htmlClick to expand... -
poncho said:...
Watch building seven collapse here.
The building fell as if it was a planned demolition. It fell straight down into it's own footprint. It didn't start falling apart where PM now says it was damaged. All the supports were taken out at the same time.Click to expand...
of a 42 story building. The lower levels were the levels damaged. -
Ed Edwards said:The first movie there shows only the top 10 or so stories
of a 42 story building. The lower levels were the levels damaged.Click to expand...
I guess it's another one of those coincidences that PM and Benjamin Chertoff decided to come out with what would you call it...a better explanation at this time, only after so many reseachers and others have questioned their first one.
Wouldn't have anything to do with the the 911 truth movement getting mainstream attention on CSPAN? Naw It's a coincidence I tell ya! :laugh:
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poncho said:It worked for Michael Chertoff's 20 something year old cousin. He's known as an expert now because of his Popular Mechanics article.Click to expand...
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NiteShift said:Well his article in fact responds directly to allegations that the conspiricy people have made, and in some cases by the very same experts that they have misquoted or misinterpreted. Doesn't matter if his name is Chertoff or not.Click to expand...
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poncho said:I guess then his age shouldn't matter either. There must be millions of qualified twenty year olds out there. Though most probably don't have the same direct ties to the conglomerated military police and security complexes that just by shear coincidence happen to be reaping huge benefits from 911 and the "threat of terrorism".Click to expand...
You made the statement, I'm just curious to know why I haven't been given a raise yet. -
poncho said:I guess then his age shouldn't matter either. There must be millions of qualified twenty year olds out there. Though most probably don't have the same direct ties to the conglomerated military police and security complexes that just by shear coincidence happen to be reaping huge benefits from 911 and the "threat of terrorism".Click to expand...
Or the structural engineer who photographed United Airlines wreckage at WTC 5, and refutes conspiricy claims that it was not really an airliner that struck the tower? Is he reaping huge benifits?
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Phillip said:I Poncho, haven't talked in a while. You know I work for the Army. Tell me, am I reaping huge benefits from 911 and the "threat of terrorism"? and if so, please be specific as to what I'm reaping and why?
You made the statement, I'm just curious to know why I haven't been given a raise yet.Click to expand...
You and NiteShift both know who I was talking about. I'm kind of curious as to why you'd try and act as if you didn't. It isn't like I haven't spelled it all out a thousand times in the past or anything.
The same people always benefit from war and hyping it Phillip, you know that and so do I. The difference between you and I is that I won't pretend or try to convince myself and/or others that I don't know it. :) -
BTW Phillip, if you are really unhappy with the amount in your paycheck you could always quit what you are doing now and go where some of the big bucks are.
You could go there make a quick couple hundred thousand invest that in a few select military contractors...take your pick that have politicians in their pocket and on their boards and be a millionaire in no time. Viola! :smilewinkgrin: -
poncho said:You and NiteShift both know who I was talking about. I'm kind of curious as to why you'd try and act as if you didn't. It isn't like I haven't spelled it all out a thousand times in the past or anything.Click to expand...
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NiteShift said:Poncho, you throw out so many accusations that it is impossible to know just which one you're talking about at any given moment. And pardon me for saying it, each and every one of them gives me heartburn.Click to expand...
More than likely it's not heartburn you're suffering from but cognitive dissonance. That's what you end up with when you know deep down what the truth is but refuse to admit it to yourself. :smilewinkgrin: -
New WTC Simulations. (a few comments)
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It's nice that I have a new reference for "paranoid", and I am definitely a lot lower on the scale than I thought I was. :thumbsup:
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OrovilleTim said:It's nice that I have a new reference for "paranoid", and I am definitely a lot lower on the scale than I thought I was. :thumbsup:Click to expand...
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