So you believe that the only people involved in 9/11 were the terrorists on board the aircraft which we never proved were involved BTW? Then why did we go after bin Laden? And also, why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia since about 2/3 of the usual group of suspects were from there?
Why weren't we told the truth about 9/11?
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JustChristian, Jan 23, 2009.
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I refer you again to the link I posted. If you really are interested in whether or not there were any prosecutions of the muslims involved visiting the WTC and the subsequent mysterious death of the Tennessee license examiner, you might want to Google.
Other than that, I'm not interested in any forms of government conspiracy theories such as has been propagated by Michael Moore types.
PS: I do not believe our government tells us everything and I do believe there was a shooter on the grassy knoll. :smilewinkgrin: -
Some of you could use a consult with the dictionary. The last I read stated
If that's the case, why do youse guys think 'conspiracy' means 'tinfoil hat'?
A fact, a happening, an event secretly planned and carried out to do harm, is a conspiracy no matter how much is discovered to be true!
It's time to get right with Websters and stop the perjorative connotation which the word smiths try to turn into negative propoganda! -
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It will always be a conspiracy! Even if every thing was revealed.
It was a conspiracy! And that is true no matter what story you believe....or question. The one's who don't think so are the ones in tinfoil hats...... who haven't the foggiest idea of the meaning of 'conspiracy'.
It was a conspiracy! And the word and the use of the word "conspiracy' is not an evil word or one which should not be used in such instance! Just because the media doesn't like the use of this word is no reason for us to drop it from our vocabulary or indict everyone who uses this word appropriate to its meaning. Without the use of this word, many decisions, crimes, coercsions, manipulations and politics cannot be effectively discussed.
It is a good and proper word and one used in the Bible.
Look it up in Strongs Concordance! It is a word effectively used and often denotes the struggle between good and evil. Like I said earlier, the word-smiths...... the semantic propagandist, the 'brain-washers' in our society and universities, don't like this word... conspiracy...... and neither does the DEVIL, cause it communicates very well the concern we should feel when confronted with the evil of occurrences which are just too coincidental and helpful to each other to be otherwise.
9-11 was a conspiracy! That is a fact! And the truth about 9-11 isn't fully known, so therefore..... all stories about 9-11 are theories about who what and how took place on that day of when: and this includes the question as to what if any purpose behind it.....including the most obvious, which was to shock and cripple our nation with the horror. -
Catcher, in the sense of the word that you describe, you are correct, and even the common knowledge is that is was a conspiracy by Al Qaeda. The thing is that the word conspiracy has been used to describe not the terrorist act, but a conspiracy to cover up some truth about the events, not the events themselves.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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as the Roman government kept it's citizens in check by, "No Roman dares sleep while Hannibal still lives. Years went be before Hannibal finally did the strike. Not much has changed sence the early days of Rome. -
If works with business:
One company sells oil and finds it profitable.
Then people discover the many things done more easily and cleanly with oil so products and technology builds around this resource increasing the dependance.
Another company develops and finds alcohol burns cleaner and better and can replace certain oil products as fuel in many applications with little modification.
The oil company finds it has competition in the fuel market.
They start buying up the alcohol depensing stations and publish discrediting information so consumers wont support the competition.
The competition goes bust.
But more people find out oil can be lucrative.
Some organize and start independant operations.
The oil companies buy up what competition they can....but too many oil cats are trying to break the market.
The oil companies invest some profits into ecological organizations and activist..... with strings attached.
These help collect both real and unsupported data and act as dispensers of information to the public which already suffers from ignorance and/or information overload.... so they accept with little question, the 'facts' of experts as presented to them and petition for regulation and increased control and restraint on developing fields.
The oil companies now have a way of controlling the competition which doesn't involve buying them out or reducing prices until the smaller businesses go under:
Whenever someone complains about the price of oil, the companies can now blame it on production (with out admitting that they conspire to limit it), or on the environmentalist (an easy fall-guy to target....and who finds much sympathy because they do bring attention to admirable values like stewardship and conservation), or overseas monopolies of oil.
The 'conspiracy' is that at each phase there is a plan. The plan is worked for a particular outcome. That out come isn't criminal and isn't a theory... but it was first a secret corporate plan: there was a conspiracy for making profits and controlling resources within a market which is supposed to be free.
In 9-11, we have the conspiracies which took place between the thugs that committed the crime. If and when the story is completely known..... we will have the story of how they conspired to accomplish bringing down the towers and killing so many people. Was it in their plan or conspiracy to stop all air traffic on that day or the day following? We don't know! That is theory. Did they conspire for us to go to war in Afghanistan? Or Iraq? We don't know! We don't know how limited or great was their conspiracy or plan. What some of us may suspect is theory about the limits or breadth of their plan...... but there is no doubt there was a plan and that plan..... what is fact .....is a conspiracy because it was a secret.
Did our government already have motives and intentions of a conflict in the east: We don't know! That is theory. But some evidence suggests that such was already in the plans of some...... and was secret...... that makes such plans a conspiracy. So this is what your saying when you say 'conspiracy theorist': conspiracy (a factual event which involved a secret plan ) theory (guesses as to intentions, motives, players, method, purpose).
Yes, there's plenty of room to investigate or study the conspiracy of 9-11, and there's ample questions and discussions to suggest that there is more to the story than anyone knows..... which makes all stories essentially theories....some more credible than others.
But, there can be no doubt that 9-11 was a conspiracy. -
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I guess the thing I'm trying to get across is that the word 'conspiracy' is a valid term. It's a term which should raise the caution flag to others..... to consider if its valid to take another look and investigate, or do we have all the information to a story ........or is something yet hidden which could work to our harm in the future.
But the way the media and many people use the word 'conspiracy' is dismissive and like stating 'don't bother, this is not politically correct' to ask questions or want answers or not be satisfied with the explanation or consider the loop holes left. It is like saying 'go back to sleep; we'll tell you when its time to wake up or evacuate the house for your safety; you're not supposed to think! We'll do that for you and tell you all you need to know! Trust me!"
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Can someone answer one simple question? Why isn't Osama bin Laden wanted by the FBI for his involvement in the 9/11 attacks?
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Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
This is the official FBI web site. Could it be that bin Laden was never charged for anything related to 9/11?
If that's true why did we invade Afghanistan and Iraq? Do we know who was really behind 9/11? If it wasn't bin Laden who was it? -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Great idea! Lets watch the BCS Championship again. -
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This question was asked and answered back in 2006.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700687.html
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