Oh boy, now you opened up Pandora's Box :laugh:
Here come the urban legends of fresh fruit lasting for thousands of years by being stored under ground.
Strange that King Tut rotted...but an apple didn't :laugh:
Wine vs. Grapejuice @ Communion
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by JerryL, Apr 26, 2008.
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I need to get out of this discussion. I'm not being disrespectful. I've just got the silly's today. :saint: -
The claim the miracle was in producing non alcohlic grape juice is laughable, as the master of the ceremonies knew which wine was the best. The miracle was He created something already aged (sound familiar? Earth, Adam, animals, etc.). Clearly symbolic. -
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http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1225577&postcount=12
Wine doesn't always mean fermented either. It can simply mean the "unfermented" fruit of the vine....depending on CONTEXT! -
You need not use that type of verbiage (laughable?) come on we have respected your thoughts on this subject surely you can return it. -
Someone made the false accusation that Christ drank alcohol. The study of Greek proves Christ did not drink alcohol at all.In the gospels, Jesus was accused of being a winebibber. The Greek word for winebibber is 'oinopotes' which simply means a drinker of wine.They did not accuse Him of being a drunkard. The Greek word for drunkard is 'methusos.' They were not accusing Him of being a drunkard, but rather a wine drinker.
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Thanks DHK. And I'm sorry for being seeming disrespectful. I really don't mean to be. I love you all. :)
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"Be not drunk with wine" (Eph 5:18).
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A miracle, derived from the old Latin word miraculum meaning "something wonderful", is a striking interposition of divine intervention by a supernatural being in the universe by which the ordinary course and operation of Nature is overruled, suspended, or modified.
Nothing supernatural overruled or modified about adding juice of grapes to water or producing grape juice instantaneously (all you have to do is squeeze one)...but there IS something supernatural, overruled and modified about creating the best, fully fermented and aged wine instantaneously. -
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