Van says he would like to discuss [Matthew 23:13], so here is the verse:

[ASV] But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye enter not in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering in to enter.

[DBY] But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for *ye* do not enter, nor do ye suffer those that are entering to go in.

[ESV] “But woe to you, scribes and...

"The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old"

This verse in its context, is about God-given "wisdom" that has been "personified" throught this Book.

From the early Church some have sought to use this for the Lord Jesus Christ, and His eternal relationship with the Father. Even the great Church "father", Athanasius, used this verse in the Greek (LXX), in the sense of "appointing", to show that the Father, had made the Son the "Chief", the "Head", the...

Quantrill wrote:
If I am not mistaken it was me who made the statement that God and Christ were racist. I gave Scripture to support my statement, I make no apology for it. I have no problem with being racist, or with God being racist.

In America 'racism', slavery, hate, inequality, bias, are identified as 'evil'. Thus American Christians must bow to this PC ideology. This means God must not support slavery, hate, bias, or inequality. This means they must interpret the Bible in light of...

"The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old"

This verse in its context, is about God-given "wisdom" that has been "personified" throught this Book.

From the early Church some have sought to use this for the Lord Jesus Christ, and His eternal relationship with the Father. Even the great Church "father", Athanasius, used this verse in the Greek (LXX), in the sense of "appointing", to show that the Father, had made the Son the "Chief", the "Head", the...

There is no Gospel( Good news) in Calvinism to point anyone to

Just for fun, I thought I would post the GOOD NEWS from a classic REFORMED (Calvinist) source in response to the implied challenge in the above quote. I don’t really care what happens to the topic after that ... I will have made the only point that I wanted to make.
Q. According to God’s righteous judgment we deserve punishment both now and in eternity: how then can we escape this punishment and return to God’s favor?

A. God...

FYI the two Bible references (Colossians 1:15, Revelation 3:14) for which JWs use to claim the Son of God is a creature and as such God's first creation.

What they need to hear from a Christian are three truths.
1. The sole Creator, John 1:3 became part of His own creation when He became flesh, John 1:10, John 1:14.
2. That "firstborn" in Colossians 1:15 mean as a man, being as a man being now part of His own creation, is the first to be resurrected per Colossians 1:18, Revelation...

Recently a person who seems to hold some Calvinistic views, said God and Jesus were racist. I thought he alone was off the wall, but it occurred that his belief was perhaps rooted in Calvinism.

As you know, many Calvinists claim God does not "love" the whole world, but only the elect. Thus John 3:16 really means God loved the elect of the world in this way, He gave His one of a kind Son...

Thus limited atonement claims Jesus died for the elect only, and could foster the belief God and...

We have the following scripture:

Revelation 18:1-5 King James Version (KJV)
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,...

8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Verse 8 explains that Jesus died for sinners ....

Simple question, are there any verses you can point to that say any people are predestined to hell?

Single predestination is clear enough from scripture. At least some, if not all, people who believe are chosen for heaven through predestination. However, to my knowledge there appears not a single verse points to a double destination.