Another Political Weiner set to Legalize Nudity in Frisco...

[righteousdude2]

SEE: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/u...strictions-provoke-the-nakedly-ambitious.html

When I plan a sight seeing trip up the coast, Frisco is no longer on my list of must see cities. And personally speaking, there are many good reasons to avoid visiting San Francisco, especially if Scott Weiner has his way. If his law is enacted, there is going to be one more reason to skip the weird freak show going on in Sodom North!

I steer clear of Frisco because of the dark evil spirit that looms large over the city by the bay. Everything from gays publicly displaying their affection on every street corner, to the fact that navigating the "streets of San Francisco" are more challenging than driving anywhere else in this nation or around the world.

The nudist freaks of Frisco are baring it all more often than not, and a new law will make nudism in certain parts of Frisco legal.

In my opinion, most Christian families should avoid this city in order to spare their children from being exposed to the evil that is slowly taking over the streets of this once historical and infamous city.

When it comes to sinful ideologies getting their roots dug into society, this city is the birth place of many things that would for sure make them the number candidate for a " fire storm" from heaven. :tonofbricks:

Pray for those who love God and find it nearly impossible to get out of "Dodge," but, at the same time, avoid this city at all costs, unless you want to see what a modern-day Sodom would look like in the first person. :tear:

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Would you then advise churches like Hamilton Square Baptist to abandon the city?

 

[righteousdude2]

No.

Would you then advise churches like Hamilton Square Baptist to abandon the city?

However, I would warn those who are thinking of visiting the area, especially if they have children in tow (or those who would be offended by such behaviors), to consider avoiding this city. It is really a bastion for iniquity, and the spirit of lust (for those who may have a problem with sexual temptation) is bristling and enticing.

As I said, it is my opinion, and maybe you (C4K) would find the city amusing and worth the time and trouble. LOL

As I said, it has its historical values, and many splendid views. However, with the potential to run into nude folks, the view may not be quite so splendid, at least from where I see this city heading.

BTW - Have you been to San Fran lately? Or are you just trying to be disagreeable?

The church you mention is there, and it would be difficult to get out of "Dodge!" unless God directly told them to leave, like He did Lot who lived in Sodom....

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

However, I would warn those who are thinking of visiting the area, especially if they have children in tow (or those who would be offended by such behaviors), to consider avoiding this city. It is really a bastion for iniquity, and the spirit of lust (for those who may have a problem with sexual temptation) is bristling and enticing.

As I said, it is my opinion, and maybe you (C4K) would find the city amusing and worth the time and trouble. LOL

As I said, it has its historical values, and many splendid views. However, with the potential to run into nude folks, the view may not be quite so splendid, at least from where I see this city heading.

BTW - Have you been to San Fran lately? Or are you just trying to be disagreeable?

The church you mention is there, and it would be difficult to get out of "Dodge!" unless God directly told them to leave, like He did Lot who lived in Sodom....

I have never had the privilege to visit Hamilton Square. It is one church on the west coast that I would love to visit. They take God's challenge to reach the lost with the gospel seriously. They take foreign missions seriously while at the same time having a burden for the lost all around them. They see drug addicts, drunkards, prostitutes, homosexuals, and I am sure even wicked nudists saved and transformed on a regular basis.

I am disturbed by this current trend for Christians to run from the people who need them the most. It seems that many churches flee their first mission field by running to the safety of nice, quiet, acceptable towns and neighbourhoods where they don't have to risk being offended and don't have to see those wicked sinners.

A lot of folks 'AMEN!' Romans 1, but choose to ignore Romans 2.

 

[billwald]

Is it so terrible that a child should know what a human body looks like? Or that an adult should know what a human body looks like? Familiarity breeds contempt and public nudity would take the profit out of several industries, maybe several denominations.

 

[righteousdude2]

Why Bill, Are You a Weekend....

Is it so terrible that a child should know what a human body looks like? Or that an adult should know what a human body looks like? Familiarity breeds contempt and public nudity would take the profit out of several industries, maybe several denominations.

....nudist? Or just a supporter of the practice of public nudity? Your response is strange and can have several meanings!

 

[righteousdude2]

I Am Not Suggesting that Believers Run from Sin City North!

I have never had the privilege to visit Hamilton Square. It is one church on the west coast that I would love to visit. They take God's challenge to reach the lost with the gospel seriously. They take foreign missions seriously while at the same time having a burden for the lost all around them. They see drug addicts, drunkards, prostitutes, homosexuals, and I am sure even wicked nudists saved and transformed on a regular basis.

I am disturbed by this current trend for Christians to run from the people who need them the most. It seems that many churches flee their first mission field by running to the safety of nice, quiet, acceptable towns and neighbourhoods where they don't have to risk being offended and don't have to see those wicked sinners.

A lot of folks 'AMEN!' Romans 1, but choose to ignore Romans 2.

I am merely suggesting that people who may be offended with the public display of affection between members of the same sex, partial nudity, and full body nudity....avoid stopping off in Frisco for a vacation.

Just as it is my right to share this Conservative (tea party like) opinion, it is your right to make the liberal (anti-Bush) like statement you've made in an attempt to discredit my post.

We both have the right to say our piece, so let's let it lay there. Neither of us can win this disagreement. You believe what you believe, and I believe what I believe.

If we both lived in the day of Lot, I'd have fled the town, while I'm sure, you'd have remained to win over the lost, even as the brimstones of fire slammed down.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Just as it is my right to share this Conservative (tea party like) opinion, it is your right to make the liberal (anti-Bush) like statement you've made in an attempt to discredit my post.

Okay, I have to ask one thing. How is my view that Christians should not abandon the sinners who most need the gospel either liberal or anti-Bush (since I don's see liberal and anti-Bush anywhere near synonymous)?

Would your view be that Christians always retreat from areas where sinners are in control, or just San Francisco?

 

[righteousdude2]

Imho.....

Okay, I have to ask one thing. How is my view that Christians should not abandon the sinners who most need the gospel either liberal or anti-Bush (since I don's see liberal and anti-Bush anywhere near synonymous)?

Would your view be that Christians always retreat from areas where sinners are in control, or just San Francisco?

......is close to being a lost cause. The heavy spirit of seduction that hangs over that city and moves its citizens to do the things they do, is pretty much winning the war. We are taught that there are evil spirit that inhabits the air, and I believe San Fran is one of those places where it is wise not to submit oneself to the seductive spirit that controls that realm.

This is my view, and if you disagree, so be it. I've had to visit the city several times a year (back in the 90's) for my job, and I can attest that the seductive, offensive spirit hanging over the city eleven years ago, has only become worse. The proof of this can be seen in the sin that comes forth from that city. It is the melting pot for just about any sin you can imagine, and those in authority are either supporting it, or involved in it.

Again, this is merely my opinion, and you are allowed yours. However, from what I witnessed from 1991 to 2000 was a continued deterioration of morals and values in that city, and the fact that the general populace goes along with it is proof that the evil over the city is affecting the way things are done.

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I can't imagine where the Church would be today if we ran in the face of sinners.

Ireland is a very, very dark land. It looks lovely on the surface, but unimaginable wickedness takes place here. One of the candidates for president is a h0h0sexual who once tried to us his clout in the Senate to get clemency for his partner who had r@ped a 15 year old boy in Israel. He used that same clout to get Irish citizenship for another partner who otherwise would not have qualified. He is open about his lifestyle and unapologetic for his actions, which he says he did for love.

So if he is elected and takes a partner into the Áras an Uachtaráin (presidential residence) should Christians then avoid Ireland?

This is the tip of the iceberg of this cultures wickedness.

And yet God is working. Not in hundreds and thousands, but ones and twos and families. Evangelical Christians are excited because we might just break 1% of the population when this years census is released.

Should we run, because Ireland is a hopeless case?

BTW, I really would be interested to see how my view is liberal and anti-Bush.

 

[jaigner]

I am disturbed by this current trend for Christians to run from the people who need them the most. It seems that many churches flee their first mission field by running to the safety of nice, quiet, acceptable towns and neighbourhoods where they don't have to risk being offended and don't have to see those wicked sinners.

Very well said, friend. Christians in this country often act like they have some God-given right to not ever be offended by anything. I have news for you: we give that right up for the Kingdom.

Who cares if some nude people show up? Those people need Jesus...and maybe some pants, as well.

 

[HankD]

Remember the Mamas and the Papas?

If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair

I guess blinders might help as well.

Actually Last year (or was it the year before?) we went to SF, visited zoos, botanical gardens, ate at a sea-side restaurant, sight-seeing, etc and didn't see any debauchery just LOTS of traffic.


HankD

 

[Havensdad]

Is it so terrible that a child should know what a human body looks like? Or that an adult should know what a human body looks like? Familiarity breeds contempt and public nudity would take the profit out of several industries, maybe several denominations.

What is WRONG with you? Do you read your Bible, or are you just a lurker here?

 

[freeatlast]

SEE: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/u...strictions-provoke-the-nakedly-ambitious.html

When I plan a sight seeing trip up the coast, Frisco is no longer on my list of must see cities. And personally speaking, there are many good reasons to avoid visiting San Francisco, especially if Scott Weiner has his way. If his law is enacted, there is going to be one more reason to skip the weird freak show going on in Sodom North!

I steer clear of Frisco because of the dark evil spirit that looms large over the city by the bay. Everything from gays publicly displaying their affection on every street corner, to the fact that navigating the "streets of San Francisco" are more challenging than driving anywhere else in this nation or around the world.

The nudist freaks of Frisco are baring it all more often than not, and a new law will make nudism in certain parts of Frisco legal.

In my opinion, most Christian families should avoid this city in order to spare their children from being exposed to the evil that is slowly taking over the streets of this once historical and infamous city.

When it comes to sinful ideologies getting their roots dug into society, this city is the birth place of many things that would for sure make them the number candidate for a " fire storm" from heaven. :tonofbricks:

Pray for those who love God and find it nearly impossible to get out of "Dodge," but, at the same time, avoid this city at all costs, unless you want to see what a modern-day Sodom would look like in the first person. :tear:

I agree. I lived in Manteca as well as Modesto some 40 years ago and even back then when traveling to Frisco it was a shocking experience. Even trying to describe what was going on back then is beyond belief. I doubt anyone would believe it if I tried.
However back then it fit my lifestyle and even though I was initially shocked it wore off quickly as I was a lover of sin.
Those churches in the area certainly need our prayers as they are up against a modern day Corinth with Sodom as their head. Frisco is no place to go and visit for a vacation. Unless a Christian is going to evangelize they need to stay away.

 

[billwald]

If there are NT prohibitions of nudity I don't recall them.

 

[freeatlast]

If there are NT prohibitions of nudity I don't recall them.

You got us there, but at a high price my friend. Higher then you know.

 

[Arbo]

Is it so terrible that a child should know what a human body looks like?

Creepy comment.

 

[bacustic]

This is why I am glad that I believe salvation is dependent on the work of the Spirit and not man. Nothing is a lost cause until Christ returns. You guys feel free to run like the wind. I pray the Lord will send me to such places to share the Gospel with my kids in tow.

 

[jaigner]

this is why i am glad that i believe salvation is dependent on the work of the Spirit and not man. Nothing is a lost cause until Christ returns. You guys feel free to run like the wind. I pray the Lord will send me to such places to share the Gospel with my kids in tow.

What a great statement. Blessing.

 

[righteousdude2]

I Am NOT Suggesting that Believers Desert Frisco!

I was simply making a point that yet another form of seductive sin is being legalized in a city that is already pretty much filled to the top in regard to sinful activites.

I was simply suggesting that those who may be offended with the kind of things PERMITTED in San Francisco, avoid making that city a vacation destination.

I realize that there are believers, and churches that exist within the city limits, and whether they stay and be a witness to those who are lost is simply their choice. In fact, if they can remain in the city and NOT give in to the seductive spirits that hover over the city, MORE power to them!

However, you must be cognizant of what you are facing off against each and every day, and to remain a stronghold for the Kingdom, a person must be extraordinary and spiritually strong.

There is no room for believers living within the city to give even an inch when it comes to their values, morals, and beliefs. To do so would be letting the enemy have ground that is precious and very hard to win back once it's lost.

I don't know how I became the enemy in putting this post up. I am not the enemy. I am merely sounding the trumpets in Zion. I guess its truer on this forum than anywhere else I can think of, the Scripture about a prophet "not having honor in his own country" (John 4:44) rings out loud, clear and true!

As for C4K: It wasn't your response that caused me to compare you to a liberal Bush hating person. It was what I am able to read between the lines of your responses. Your frame of thinking is liberal, and anti-Bush, and it is never truer when you come after my postings.

I know nothing about Ireland, but would assume that history would be one reason the Europeon countries are so dark and filled with sin. History has been filled with sexual corruption, hate, and what have you. It doesn't surprise me what you say about Ireland.

However, you don't know that much about Frisco, still you were the first to come after me, stirring the pot. looking for an argument. Of course that is your right, it is just interesting that you seem to be one of the members who always comes at me with ridiculous question and comments.

NO I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT THE CHURCH YOU MENTIONED LEAVE THE CITY, OR ABANDON ITS MISSION OR There is nothing in my post to (remotely) suggest that. I was simply pointing out that along with the open and outward expressions of the homosexuals walking down the streets, the fact that on almost every street is some kind of porn store, nude dancing, XXX rated movies, gay bath houses, etc., And now the city leaders are poised to approve public nudity.

When do believers say, "Enough is enough?" and stand up and protest what is going wrong in that city. When do the believers take on city hall and protest the protesters? The truth is believers are outnumbered, and I believe they are greatly intimidated by all the sin and seduction that are going on all around them.

The only protesting going on in that city is anti-war protests. The city is hostile towards the US military that the military no longer holds their Annual Fleet Week Celebration. There are regular protests against pro-life organizations. Gay pride rallies; and protests against those who are against gay marriage. Furthermore, Frisco is a "safe zone for illegal aliens," and along with the city of Oakland, they now pay for their employees to have trans-gender operations. I hope you can see why I suggest that people of values and morals not put this city on their vacation list.

As for those living there, if they can hold to the values of the Bible, and live a life that is pleasing to God (not man), then stay there and try to be all you can be until the Lord returns.

I hope that answers your questions. :thumbsup: