Which artice in particular? (I suspect rhe fourth, but it falls short of attributing salvation to man's decision).
Arminianism
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by JonC, Nov 24, 2021.
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As you say, "not resisting" = self-salvation. The mule that doesn't refuse drinking water saves itself from dehydration.
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Was Christ wrong to say men must repent and believe? Of course not. But if it were another person using those words it would be easy to say it's a work-based salvation. -
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Read Acts 7:51, "“You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always RESIST the Holy Spirit! As your fathers did, so you do" -
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Arminianism does not make the separations Calvinism does. God brings men to repentance and belief (per Arminianism) and belief is entirely a work of God through the Holy Spirit. -
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God's will, in the sense of "desire", is frustrated all the time.
Every sin of man is man's will trumping God's will (desire).
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But biblically you are correct. Both belief and rejecting a truth are not works. In Scripture "works" refer to works of the Law or of the flesh intended to earn or demonstrate righteousness. -
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With Arminianism the idea is Christ draws all men. -
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WORK
Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
FAITH
Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
WORK
Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
FAITH
Rom 10:6 BUT the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
WORK
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
FAITH
BUT by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ,
and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
WORK
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident:
FAITH
for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal 3:12 And the law is
NOT OF FAITH: but, The man that DOETH them shall live in them.
The whole "free will faith is a work" argument is human reasoning, not scriptural theology. You can't show it in the scriptures. It's a human rationalization, it's a philosophical argument, as evidenced by a plethora of buzzwords like "synergism". That argument, that faith = work is the one wherewith Pelagius tricked Augustine. -
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In the Book of Jonah chapter 3 when Jonah takes the Gospel, and all of the people from the King to the least agrees with the Just demands of the Lord, they REPENT. interesting in the KJV 3.10 reads
Jonah 3:10
And God saw their WORKS, that they turned from their evil way (REPENTED); and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
This is not theology but what the Bible actually says -
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Also interesting
Acts 10:34-35
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him
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