I have already seen other christians do this.
Breathing on people. Most likely they think because Jesus did it anybody can do it. I also saw christians pray over paperhankees to lay them on the sick, they say this is okay cause Paul did it. But where does the bible tell us to do it? I guess you can argue about these things.
Or what about christians being in Africa where God mightily moves and then bringing along some earth with them which they collected in Africa in order to take the anointing with them? This seems like witchcraft to me.
Or what about prayer walks or however you call this? Where you walk around in a city and pray for the city against the forces of the enemy?
There are so many things today which come up, so many extra teachings, where I ask myself where do they even get this? This is confusing.
Benny Hinn Discussions
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Bible-boy, Feb 7, 2006.
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Much of what you describe is connected with the occult, and if not is just plain superstition. The best advice is just to ignore it all, study the Word of God, find a Bible-believing church, and be instructed in the Word of God by a faithful man of God.
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I believe, based on Acts 8:9-13, that Simon the Magician wanted the power of the Holy Spirit for his own personal fame and in order to make money off the people and that is why Peter rebuked him so sternly.
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Yes, this is a possibility that some people are simply attracted to the power which they can have that they don't care about anything else.
But an interesting question would be: Can God also serve christians through a person which does not have the right motives? Can God still do miracles through such a person? Because in Matthew 7:21-23 they say they did wonders and these wonders can also have helped people. -
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But this is also something I don't understand. How can somebody do miracles simply by using the name Jesus? How does this fit together with the story of the few men which wanted to cast out demons in Jesus name and got beaten up by the demons cause they didn't know them?
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I don't know.
Do you really think if he's a fraud he'll go to heaven? Does the bible not say that liars and murderers etc. do not go to heaven?I cannot find the verse right now.
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Anyone who accepted Christ as Savior will be in heaven. Period.
You're taking a verse out of its intended context. If what you're saying is true, then none of us will be in heave, because we've all committed sins of abomonation at one point or another. If our actions determine our salvation, then salvation is based on works, not on faith, and Jesus was a liar.
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So you think you can just accept Jesus and live like the devil and still get to heaven cause you have your ticket?
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The demons also believe in Jesus, does this make them saved?
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We're not referring to"believing". We're referring to "accepting". All one needs to do to attain heaven is to accept the gift of salvation. Period.
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We're not referring to"believing". We're referring to "accepting". All one needs to do to attain heaven is to accept the gift of salvation. Period.Click to expand... -
It's clear you have much to learn about scripture. If you want to have a discussion on the topic of faith vs works, please start another thread. That is not the topic of this thread.
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Originally posted by Johnv:
It's clear you have much to learn about scripture.Click to expand...
I have much too learn....
The KJVonlyism is nonsense...
Very convincing and by the way these quotes are from an evangelist, not from me. He seems to have the same opinion. But let me guess, he also has much to learn. Well, I guess we cannot all be as smart and knowledgeable as you....
Hey, I got an idea for your signature:
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Originally posted by xdisciplex:
Haha, all you can do is write down judgmental statements.Click to expand...
It was not a judgement, and not meant to be an insult. There's no shame in acknowleging that one has much to learn. Even I, a graduate of two bible colleges and ten years of post-graduate study to differing levels, nave much to learn.
As far as KJVOism, it's sheer nonsense. There is no scripture whatsoever to support KJVOism. Absolutely none. You're a newcomer on this board. I have asked for scriptural support of KJVOism on 122 separate occaisions over 4 years. To date, no one has ever provided any scriptural support.
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We're not talking about KJVOism but about once saved always saved and you simply say that whoever does not agree with you has much to learn, this seems a bit narrow-minded in my opinion. I can do exactly the same and simply say you have much to learn.
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