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Quit deflecting.
What sins have you committed against your will?
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What sins have you willingly committed?
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I never said it was.
However, a lost man who divorces and remarries before being saved, when they’re saved, that’s forgiven, blotted out by the blood of the Lamb. But you expect them to leave their spouse or remain with her?
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Have you considered God's elect do not do this? And many false believers do?
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Paul addressing believers at Corinth...
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers , nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you ; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ]
Here he told them all who could not inherit the kingdom of God. Yes, adulterers were included. However, he then told them such were some of them. Yes, adultery can be saved.
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Every one of them. No one has made me sin. Not even Satan can make me do it.
I see the sin in my life unlike another...
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Paul addressing believers at Corinth...
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers , nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you ; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 ]
Here he told them all who could not inherit the kingdom of God. Yes, adulterers were included. However, he then told them such were some of them. Yes, adultery can be saved.
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Many have sketchy backgrounds but do not remain in them after conversion to Christ.
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Exactly. They have been forgiven if it. God imputes the Christ’s righteousness unto them and now they stand before Him clothed in the Son’s righteousness.
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Now that I have answered yours, answer mine.
What sins have you committed against your will?
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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3:9 )
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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (
1 John 3:9 )
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So, ppl can live sinless in the flesh here on earth?
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You are missing the point. If you know something is sin, and then choose to do it, you are not atoned for.
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“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (
1 John 3:9 )
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No one who is born of God practices sin , because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [NASB]
Get out of the 17th century and get a bible that actually speaks our language.
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The flesh is wicked and we battle it continuously. But we do not willfully and consciously yield to it.
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You still won’t answer my question. What sins have you committed against your will?
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No one who is born of God practices sin , because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [NASB]
Get out of the 17th century and get a bible that actually speaks our language.
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Practice begins with the first sin.
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You keep saying this but won’t answer my question. But I know why...
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That’s not the context, not even remotely close.
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If you understood the passage, you would not be asking leading questions.