It is rebellion against God:
To think that homosexuality is somehow ok
To think that pre-marital sex is somehow ok
To think that smoking cigarettes is somehow ok
To think that drinking beer is somehow ok
To think that playing the lottery is somehow ok
To think that playing poker is somehow ok
To think that long hair on men is somehow ok
To think that short hair on women is somehow ok
To think that women wearing pants is somehow ok
To think that public bathing is somehow ok
To think that public nakedness is somehow ok
To think that Sunday sports is somehow ok
To think that public education is somehow ok
[ July 04, 2003, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: Squire Robertsson ]
FBF: It is Rebellion Against God
Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Pioneer, Apr 27, 2003.
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I read a post recently by someone who was basically demanding that each and everything had to be specifically stated in Scripture. And as long as the Bible did not specifically forbid something - she was going to do it.
Well, it would seem to me that Paul provided an answer for this type of logic in Galatians 5.
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings . . ." (Gal. 5:20-21).
Where does he address specific sins in this passage? The last three words of verse 21, " . . . and such like!" -
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Seems to me that to set up an unbiblical standard and try to use it as a measure of loyalty to God is the sin of idolatry, which is indeed rebellion against God. :( -
1. Of course.
2. Of course.
3. I think that since we are aware of its destructive capabilities and its ability to enslave a person, it is wrong. This is because we KNOW this stuff now. Prior to such knowledge, I don't know how it could be preached against.
4. I am against alchohol for any reason (I think this is where Pete and I disagree).
5. The lottery is a method of exploiting the poor. That is why I am against it. It isn't about using money wisely. I mean, how many people have bought KJVO material? That is more foolish, me thinks.
6. Is it to win money? If it isn't gambling, it is a card game like any other. Don't let your kids play "Go Fish".
7. Of course.
8. Actually, I am amazed to see this one. It is a shame for men to have long hair. That is Scripture. The reciprocal is not stated in Scripture. The word translated that describes the woman's hair literally means "neat or in place". So, if her hair is "shorter", it needs to be done in an attractive manner. Btw, Paul's point is that a man's hair needs to be shorter than a woman's.
9. That is ridiculous. You lack not only Scripture, but reason.
10. Of course.
11. Of course.
12. I read this one no less than 5 times. I thought it was a joke at first. Since when is Sunday the Sabbath?
13. I am thankful that I was home-education from 5th grade through graduation. However, not everyone can afford home-education and must instead teach their children to be strong in the faith. Separation and isolationalism isn't the same thing. :rolleyes: -
It is rebellion against God:
To think that homosexuality is somehow ok
Agre
To think that pre-marital sex is somehow ok
Agree
To think that smoking cigarettes is somehow ok
Disagree (but it can kill you)
To think that drinking beer is somehow ok
Agree
To think that playing the lottery is somehow ok
Agree
To think that playing poker is somehow ok
Disagree (you can play using cheerios!)
To think that long hair on men is somehow ok
Agree
To think that short hair on women is somehow ok
Disagree (it needs to be long enough to be different from men's hairstyles)
To think that women wearing pants is somehow ok
Disagree
To think that public bathing is somehow ok
Disagree (it's ok if it's not "mixed " siwmming)
To think that public nakedness is somehow ok
Agree
To think that Sunday sports is somehow ok
Agree (Sunday is the Lord's Day and more people might be in church if most of the sporting events were not televised on Sundays)
To think that public education is somehow ok
Agree (however, some people cannot afford to homeschool and do not have a Christian school available or cannot afford it)
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Sue, in your picture your hair is short enough to be off your neck.
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I second Baptist Believer's stetements.
However, I don't think we should judge a person's faith, mind, or heart based on any litmus test of questions. -
Folks, ignore this [snip]. God knows we don't need more LISTS to determine sin by. The Bible is enough.
(Edited to remove unnecessary description of the original post.)
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It is rebellion against God to make up extra-biblical standards then judge others as if they were in rebellion against God for not obeying them- Like the Pharisees and Judaizers.
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How sad a post. Legalism run amok. I will not even answer it (although Pioneer and I might hold to almost identical standards) as it implies that ONE side is "right" or "biblical".
And I read the Bible and just don't see it on some of those items, friend! :eek:
It is just this type of list that proves the point that being a godly Christian has shifted from Biblical absolutes and spiraled downward to a MAN-MADE list of so-called "do's and don'ts". :rolleyes: -
I lived too much of my life around people who
decided, for our God, what was and what was
not sin. The material of cults. If it is not
condemned by the Bible, then we have no right
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I'm glad Pioneer is not God.
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It is rebellion against God:
1. To think that homosexuality is somehow ok
Romans 1:18-27
2. To think that pre-marital sex is somehow ok
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
3. To think that smoking cigarettes is somehow ok
1 Corinthians 3:16-17
4. To think that drinking beer is somehow ok
Romans 13:13
5. To think that playing the lottery is somehow ok
Luke 12:42...John 19:23-24
6. To think that playing poker is somehow ok
Luke 12:42
7. To think that long hair on men is somehow ok
1 Corinthians 11:13-14
8. To think that short hair on women is somehow ok
1 Corinthians ll:15
9. To think that women wearing pants is somehow ok
Deuteronomy 22:5....1 Timothy 2:9-10
10. To think that public bathing is somehow ok
1 Timothy 2:9-10...
11. To think that public nakedness is somehow ok
1 Timothy 2:9-10
12. To think that Sunday sports is somehow ok
Exodus 20:11
13. To think that public education is somehow ok
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The Bag Lady,
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I agree with Helen and Dr. Bob.
But I will say that my hair is short, but longer than my husband's But I really don't think that God cares. ;) I think God is more concerned with our worship, praise, and service to Him.
I really don't see why we have to discuss some of these things over and over again. We know what the Bible says. Oh dear...I'm going to stop now, I don't want to seem rebellious :D -
It is rebellion against God:
To think that smoking cigarettes is somehow ok
No it ain't. I quit smoking years ago, but if I found out I had a terminal illness, I am sure I would smoke again, as it would not have time to affect my dying system. "Somehow" it would be 'ok,' although I'm sure I would still prefer a pipe or cigars.
To think that drinking beer is somehow ok
The only reasons I don't drink beer are because I don't like it and because I prefer to drink beverges of negligent Calories; tea, coffee, sugar free pop.
To think that playing the lottery is somehow ok
If 'predestination' is true-- which I don't know-- then we have all involuntarily played the ultimate lottery.
To think that long hair on men is somehow ok
No question this always comes down to "How long is long?" Do you shave your head daily? That's the only way to be absolutely certain your hair does not qualify as "long."
To think that short hair on women is somehow ok
Comparably to above, the only way to be sure of this is for women to never cut their hair.
To think that women wearing pants is somehow ok
It is if they fit.
To think that public bathing is somehow ok
In case that is the only way of bathing in a particular setting, which is worse? Bathing in public, or not bathing at all?
To think that Sunday sports is somehow ok
This is the stupidest one in your list. If Sunday sports are not ok, then sports are not ok. The day makes no difference whatsoever.
To think that public education is somehow ok
You may be right. I wouldn't be reading this {...} without it. -
OK, where's the Kool-Aid? :eek:
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I am unsure why any Christian woman would want to cut off what God calls her glory.
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