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We Catholics are BIBLE BELIEVERS.
I believe in the Good Samaritan, teach us about the damned one.

While we are on the subject of peddling LIES.

We BIBLE BELIEVERS don't lie and pretend about FAKE RULES that don't exist in scriptures..

How about giving us that bible verse you swear exist, that scripture is the ONLY and FINAL authority in Christianity.

Don't give me runarounds about scripture being important and true, no one is denying that.

Tell us where it states your FAKE MADE UP RULE in the bible.

If you don't give us a verse that flat out states it, then quit "PEDDLING LIES".

 

utilyan : while I myself (a former Catholic) hold to the scripture as the final authority in the maters of faith and morals I don't see in steaver's post that he did similarly at that time (though I would guess he does). What he did insist upon is that there is no way to be saved apart from Jesus Christ.

Douay-Rheims John 14:6 Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.

HankD

 

Let us all quiet ourselves with making statements like that and allow God, who is the ultimate judge of us all, decide who and who will not get to heaven. How a mere mortal like yourself can attempt to say how God will or will not ultimately act towards people who come before Him is beyond my comprehension.

 

That part is absolutely true Adonia. I don't believe that is what anyone is doing.

We are the light of the world and as such we should direct people to Jesus as living epistles known and read of men giving the word of God to our brethren in Adam as the Spirit leads, warning them of the wrath to come. Giving forth the true unadulterated gospel of forgiveness of sin and eternal life through belief in the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

HankD

 

Everyone has been given a measure of faith, and to whom much is given much is expected.
(bible lines can be provided^)

A perfect example of saved without Faith is PAUL himself. This is why its called perfect patience.


1 timothy 1

12I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, because He considered me faithful, putting me into service, 13even though I was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor. Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief; 14and the grace of our Lord was more than abundant, with the faith and love which are found in Christ Jesus. 15It is a trustworthy statement, deserving full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, among whom I am foremost of all.16Yet for this reason I found mercy, so that in me as the foremost, Jesus Christ might demonstrate His perfect patience as an example for those who would believe in Him for eternal life. 17Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.


Paul was dead set on killing christians, He hated God a blasphemer, violent agressor, sadistic murderer, persecutor, Considers himself the WORST among people. This guy is hellbent on killing christians.

There is no prayer, there is no good deeds, there is absolutely no faith at work. Yet God's MERCY decides it is going to intervene.

Paul did not accept Jesus Christ as lord and savior, Paul did not have faith in Jesus, Paul had no regeneration.

The intervention itself is absolute mercy and there are plenty people here who would swear that a GOOD PERSON can't receive mercy from GOD, when the bible is clear that an ABSOLUTELY EVIL person can receive Mercy from God.

People are getting too puffed up Saying to yourself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, faithless to Jesus Christ or even like this despicable Muslim.

MODERN DAY PHARISEES. Looking for every reason to send folks to hell not let them in heaven, and don't even try to go themselves.


You know where all the raging gnashing of teeth is gonna happen is from everything God is going to let people "get away with" to the disappointment of religious fascists.

 

really!?

I don't believe it utilyan.

HankD

 

It is not what God says in the Scriptures, it is what you have said as I posted above. The Scriptures not withstanding, you do not know what will happen at the appointed time. God has infinite mercy and He can bestow said mercy upon whom He will. Do you deny that He can do that?

 

There was absolutely no warrant for Paul to receive any mercy, yet Jesus Christ intervened, this is an act of mercy and forgiveness.

Paul did not pray for Jesus, he was dead set on killing Christians. Even hard for the Christians to swallow:
13But Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he did to Your saints at Jerusalem;

Paul himself tells you: "Yet I was shown mercy because I acted ignorantly in unbelief"

There Is not one thing about Paul that places him in better conditions then anyone else. There is nothing he did to merit, and he absolutely had no faith in Jesus Christ.

Cornelius is another example of the other positive extreme.

He had ZERO to do with Jesus Christ:

Acts 10
3About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of God who had just come in and said to him, “Cornelius!” 4And fixing his gaze on him and being much alarmed, he said, “What is it, Lord?” And he said to him, “Your prayers and alms have ascended as a memorial before God.

Its later that Peter preaches the gospel to him.

You got a prayer of a Pagan being answered so can one of a Muslim.


Here is a case where a Pagan woman is dying so her Pagan Mother seeks help from Jesus, this is mercy for SOMEONE ELSE!

Matthew 15
21Jesus went away from there, and withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.” 23But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and implored Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” 24But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26And He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 27But she said, “Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28Then Jesus said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once.

Jesus himself challenges that he was only sent to help his own, the same belief you and pharisees at the time are trying to drive at.

Her pagan demon possessed daughter is not a christian, she did not accept Jesus as neighbor, Yet she gets mercy and on that on behalf through her mother!

You would swear there is no way for her to get mercy unless its from her directly to Jesus and she would have to be christian.


The entire point of the GOOD SAMARITAN is that there is no religious boundary. When it came to salvation Jesus says Love God and Love neighbor, and his first example agape given is NON-christian,Non-jew.

God does not call the qualified, he qualifies the called.

Kneel before and worship me as your Lord and you get in the kingdom. <-- Jesus never gave that deal.

Satan did when he tried to tempt Jesus Christ. Why would you think Jesus is anything like satan? Christ is not selfish.

This is one who gave his life for others, He forgives even very unbelievers who killed him at the cross while they do it.

Stephen first martyr after Jesus' death. :

Acts7

59They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!” 60Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them!” Having said this, he fell asleep.

Paul for the sake of others.

Romans 9
3For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh,


See the attitude of Jesus, Stephen, Paul........ Its not a selfish-based on their own salvation, there is no condemning others in there, they are doing everything for the sake of others.

 

there is absolutely no warrant for any of us to receive any mercy.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

HankD

 

Augustine?

HankD

 

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We are not talking about Jesus here, we are not talking about what was written in the Scriptures. We are talking about God, the all powerful, the all knowing, the creator of every living person that exists. Does God the Father have to power to grant mercy to whom he wants? This is a simple stand alone question with a simple answer. Yes or no?