Headcovering..........veil or hair?

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  1. donnA Active Member

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    I would like to know how a church supports a widow, also. Our church provides spiritual support for widows and occasional financial assistance, but I don't know of any church that gives financial assistance on a regular monthly basis (similar to Social Security) to widows.

    I would like to hear more about this. Are you paying into a fund provided for widows? How does this work?
    </font>[/QUOTE]We know of another type of ministry (parachurch) that supports widows not fully though. http://www.homeschoolfoundation.org/Testimonies/docs/015Rubio.asp


    I am sure there are other organizations out there that do something similar.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Not organizations, but churches. How many does your church support? As a christian how much do you give to widows each month for thier finical support?
     
  2. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    I think it is. I think if a lady wears a covering for it's intended puposes it is a covering. There are no guidelines laid out as to what shape, color, size it must be. I tried about 10 different styles before finding the right one. And I changed again a few months ago. My husband likes it so I wear it. Actually it has been a good change as none of the ladies who cover in my immediate area wear this style so I get asked why more often.

    Have you seen this link: http://www.tznius.com/cgi-bin/group.pl?id=30

    It is a Jewish link, but I like one of the snoods there. I need to make the one pattern I have and see how it turns out. I am thinking of using soft peachskin for the fabric. I like peachskin but it is heavy in the summer.
     
  3. Dr. Bob Administrator
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    Donna - Don't expect an answer. Those who live by legalism HAVE to pick-and-choose which rules they will follow. It is human nature. There are none of us consistent in all areas.

    And the judgmental spirit runs both ways. Poor Dina was nailed for not fitting the "outward" look that some deemed Christian. Wanted to hurl. That puts pharisees to shame.

    But at the same time, I see some poor woman with a doily or snood (far cry from a veil of Bible times) walk by and I feel ashamed that someone might mistake REAL VIBRANT christianity with that. Same with the UPC women, with ankle skirts and hairdos piled upon piles. So out of it that they make Amish look modern!

    So we all judge. Let's be careful to attack the ISSUES and not EACH OTHER.
     
  4. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    We are visiting an Anabaptist church that does practice what is laid out in the Scripture in Timothy. We have not been shown finacial records.
     
  5. donnA Active Member

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    So you mean you stick out in a crowd, even a crowd of veiled women.
    huhh, interesting.
     
  6. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    So you mean you stick out in a crowd, even a crowd of veiled women.
    huhh, interesting.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I guess I do. I wear a different color than the prevailing color around here.
     
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    So it is all right to take money from foundations, donations from churches, etc., but not accept money from our government Social Security) that we have paid into for years?

    Thank you for the link.
     
  8. donnA Active Member

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    I certainly agree with this, but do we go around bashing people for it, telling them they are not christians, they are not letting Jesus' light shine through them. No, we recognize we are not perfect, better to take care the beam and lets take care of thier speck.
    But after seeing what was odne to Dina on this thread, I see not all have biblical view.
     
  9. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    Thankful, what do you think the Bible teaches about this?
     
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    One moment, I'll ask my husband about that.
     
  11. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    Ok
     
  12. donnA Active Member

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    I don't recall seeing Social security in the bible anywhere. ANyone else?
     
  13. donnA Active Member

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    Seeing how as people are making unsubstantiated accusations, and making stuff up and choosing which scripture to believe, and as usually taking other scripture out of context then refuses to answer question on it(I don't think even they understand what they are saying enough to be able to answer, when you stray from scripture you get like that), I am so tired of wasting my time on this topic when there are at least 100 other active topic on the BB where people are actually communicating.
     
  14. TaterTot Guest

    I have a dear friend who "covers". We agree to disagree, as many people here are unable to do. She is the only one in our church that does this, but people still treat her just like everyone else! (BTW, she just had her 9th child - homebirth- and I was invited to attend. I did, too.) I know several others who "cover" but none have EVER pushed it the way I see it done here. Let's move on with life!! We aren't changing each others' minds!

    PS - Some of you have terrible grammar and are homeschooling advocates. I am hoping that much of the errors are just typos!
     
  15. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    Thank you, thank you for calling me a LEGALIST. Thank you for telling me that I pick and choose and DO NOT SUPPORT WIDOWS. This has to be one of my most blessed days. I will be praying that you are very blessed. I pray that YOU WILL HAVE GOOD HEALTH ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.

    Thank you for telling me that INSIDE MY HEART I am not what I am on the outside (Pharisee). Thank you for that, blessings be upon you, many, many blessings!

    Thank you for telling me that I confuse the unsaved and my witness to the lost is WORTHLESS. Thank you for telling me that I have no vibrant Christian life. Thank you and many blessings be upon you. I leap and leap and leap and leap, thank you thank you you are truly blessed

    Thank you for telling ME MY WITNESS IS WORTHLESS, BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU, BLESS YOU.

    I just prayed, just now and I truly do hope you will have good health all the days of your life.

    You are right about one thing I am worthless and I am saved only by the blood of Jesus. I will continue to wear a headcovering and continue to leap for joy from all these great posts tonight.

    BTW, I DON'T WEAR A DOILY Leap, Leap.
     
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    First, I asked your opinion and belief and I would like to know your answer. You are very good at asking questions.

    I believe that a person or widow should accept social security before they ask for help from a church or any other organization.

    1 Timothy 5:16 "If any believing man or woman has widows, let them relieve them, and do not let the church be burdened, that it may relieve those who are really widows."

    My Bible Study Notes:

    Responsibility for support rests first upon the family. When Christian families meet their own responsibilities, the church is able to care for those who have no family resources.

    I would think that Social Security is a family resource.

    My mother and mother in law both receive social security benefits that are supplimented by family.
     
  17. Headcoveredlady New Member

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    I agree with what the Bible teaches, this also extends to the fatherless.
     
  18. Wiedertaufen New Member

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    [/qb][/QUOTE]Well how about the same question for oyu. How many widoews does your church send amonthly check too? Pay all her finical needs? How many? [/QB][/QUOTE]

    I have no widows in my church. We would like to become a church that could do such if needed. Its not an easy task if you were not already established in such a thing like the Amish and Mennonites.
     
  19. Wiedertaufen New Member

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    Amen, sister. I respect that.
     
  20. Wiedertaufen New Member

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    You are not required to pay social security. You can be removed from the system if its for religious reasons. None of the Amish or Mennonites have social security.