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Featured Hebrews 9:27

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Salty, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM.

  1. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    Yeah ok, I'll take that as a non-response. God bless you.
     
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    I don’t see those words. The prophet told him he was going to die (no specific date given). God healed him and told him he would live another 15 years.

    Even if God changed the date, there is no denying that God is setting the date he would die.

    peace to you
     
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    Did Hezekiah choose to be a man of faith, of Abraham, ie, of God or did God choose Hezekiah to be a man of faith, of Abraham, of God?

    To be of the faith, of Abraham which I believe to be, the faith of God, which I believe to be, the learned obedience of the Son of God Heb 5:7,8 Phil 2:8
     
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    The only other option would be Open theism, do you hold to that?
     
  5. George Antonios

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    He did. It says he did.

    Of course there is no denying of that. I never did. No one did.
     
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    The plans and purposes of God are predestined/ordained by Him, so His foreknowledge is because of Him already setting outcomes!
     
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    Yes, of course, it was Hezekiah's choice. Hence the responsibility God places on him, and on every man.
     
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    God knows all things due to Him already determining the outcomes.... Not causing them directly all of the time, but making them happen as He so wills
     
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    Did the Apostle paul believe in Lord Jesus by His own will, or due to the predetermine purpose of God?
     
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    Sorry brother, but as I've told you before, and many have agreed, you never actually engage what others say, you only repeat your words without incorporating feedback. I cannot therefore engage with you.
     
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    I'd answer, but you don't listen.
     
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    I do, but just try to not assert that Paul chose due to "free will"
     
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    it seems to be more that those who are dead set against the concepts such as predestination and election have issues with how responses are posted!
     
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    That's a disingenuous defence. Many non-Calvinists here engage many Calvinists, and we sorely disagree but the majority take into account our words and integrate them into their feedback. You don't. Your replies, no matter what we say, are always a re-iteration of what you "know". You just repeat the mantras. That's not a conversation.

    @canadyjd over here was not listening either today, but finally he did, and we were able to go on.

    The day you integrate our points into your replies is the day we can resume conversation.

    And I believe in predestination and election, they're in the Bible.
     
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    We disagree on this, I believe God called Abraham to be, of faith, so also Hezekiah, however I might add, we according to my thoughts reading your posts, usually agree on more than we disagree.

    We will all be on the same page bye and bye for God will make sure of that.

    For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
     
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    I agree that God called them unto faith. God calls every man to believe. The problem is most men do not. Sadly.

    Amen to the rest.
     
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    Material false statement
     
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    Your inferences concerning my views were mistaken, but thanks for your willingness to cease and desist.
     
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    You are an open theist, Sir, since according to your copy and paste theology, our sins are not foreordained!!!!
     
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    Ordained and determined do not equal "authored" in the sense that God created.
    Second, no Calvinist that I know, says that humans do not exercise their will in rebellion against God. Instead, it is expressed that no human will can supercede God's will, nor can human will secure its own salvation so as to "accept" God's grace. Indeed, nowhere does God ever tell anyone that they "need to accept God's gift of salvation." Such teaching is wholely a creation of men who desperately want a share in their own salvation via an imagined cooperation with God.
     
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