Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!
God the Son drank wine and was accused of being a drunk. Are you that forbid the drinking of wine doing the same?
Is Drinking Wine Wrong??
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TaliOrlando, Aug 8, 2006.
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Have I ever said I abstain from alcohol? I don't believe I have.
I think you and those with like mindedness are stumbling blocks for Christians who don't hold to the same foolish legalistic standards as you. The Word of God is the judge...not you. -
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It is not legalistic to obey God's Word. But it is very much liberalistic to live against it. -
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Gammy Pagoo said:Nope--I sure don't---except when I run into people on the BaptistBoard who are antagonistic.Click to expand...
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I guess you must be saying God is foolish and legalistic too.Click to expand...
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the Psalmist writes that "wine gladdens the heart of a man." God gave us the fruit of the vine to enjoy.
Psalm 104:15 –And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
H3196 yayin yah'-yin
From an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication intoxication: - banqueting, wine, wine [-bibber]. -
Alcott said:standingfirminChrist said:I guess you must be saying God is foolish and legalistic too. It is His Holy Word that says 'Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his color in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.' 'Stay away from it!
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Slick-- Yes or No....Did God say "Give strong drink to him who is perishing, And wine to him whose life is bitter. Let him drink and forget his poverty And remember his trouble no more"? [Proverbs 31:6-7]Click to expand...
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webdog said:Alcott said:Don't expect an answer. Any Scripture they don't like they discard. Still waiting on an answer how the Lord of Hosts will be making us sin someday by providing us with the best...WELL AGED wine (Isaiah 25:6)Click to expand...Click to expand...
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standingfirminChrist said:Alcott said:Are those who are advocating the imbibing of alcoholic beverages perishing? Are they bitter? If so, they better check their walk with the Lord. My Bible tells me that Jesus gives joy, not bitterness. My Bible tells me God's people should be full of abundant life, not perishing.Click to expand...Click to expand...
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webdog said:Never said that. Your legalistic views are foolish.Click to expand...
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mojoala said:the Psalmist writes that "wine gladdens the heart of a man." God gave us the fruit of the vine to enjoy.
Psalm 104:15 –And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart.
H3196 yayin yah'-yin
From an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication intoxication: - banqueting, wine, wine [-bibber].Click to expand...
7200. ra'ah (Look)
Search for H7200 in KJVSL
har ra'ah raw-aw'
a primitive root; to see, literally or figuratively (in numerous applications, direct and implied, transitive, intransitive and causative):--advise self, appear, approve, behold, X certainly, consider, discern, (make to) enjoy, have experience, gaze, take heed, X indeed, X joyfully, lo, look (on, one another, one on another, one upon another, out, up, upon), mark, meet, X be near, perceive, present, provide, regard, (have) respect, (fore-, cause to, let) see(-r, -m, one another), shew (self), X sight of others, (e-)spy, stare, X surely, X think, view, visions. (Strongs)
Too many arguments in one verse to overlook the fact that God does not want His children drinking alcoholic beverages.
Do not provide - That friend of HP's provided alcohol for his son... no righteousness in that.
The wine that gladdens the heart cannot be the same wine that brings sorrow, such as the alcoholic beverage that Solomon speaks of in the twenty-third chapter of Proverbs.
The wine that gladdens the heart does not bite like a serpent and sting like an adder. It does not cause redness of eyes, it does not bring woe. -
Alcott said:standingfirminChrist said:Where is you Yes or No answer? or are you a coward to give it?Click to expand...Click to expand...
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standingfirminChrist said:webdog said:Best wine, as has been shown time and time again, is not fermented. Read Deuteronomy 14:26 in context and you will find it is not fermented wine when compared with wine that the people refrained from later on in Deuteronomy. The Lord was pleased when they refrained from drinking the fermented wine! Wonder why?Click to expand...Click to expand...
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H7200 is the word for saw, see, seen, appear, looked upon. etc.
So what are you trying to say.
Wine has rendered only from two words.
The scripture I gave you renders it as alcoholic.
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