for any of the following?
Is it possible....
Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by SaggyWoman, Mar 13, 2010.
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for a Catholic to go to heaven?
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for a Calvinist to go to heaven?
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for a seventh day adventist to go to heaven?
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for a Jehovah's Witness to go to heaven?
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for a Mormon to go to heaven?
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for someone who works on the Sabbath to go to heaven?
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for a homosexual to go to heaven?
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for a scientologist to go to heaven?
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I am not sure. It depends.
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None of the above will go to heaven.
0 vote(s)0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
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All the elect will go to heaven. I cannot speak for the various religions and philosophies. Hence, I could not answer the poll.
Cheers,
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The question asked: "for a Catholic to go to heaven?"
The answer is yes, but most will not.
Same principal for most of the other. -
ANYONE can go to heaven if they come God's way and not their own.
Unfortunately, most will not do it God's way and insist on doing it their own way. -
Some of the categories I could say "Yes, they can - if they trust in Jesus Christ for salvation". However, if someone continues to follow a belief system that is antithetical to the Bible, they cannot. Additionally, anyone who continues in wonton sin cannot go to heaven because they are not truly saved even if they "raised their hand and walked forward". Yes, a homosexual can go to heaven but if they continue to live in that lifestyle with the heart attitude that it is right and blessed, then there is something wrong with their heart - it is still dead. Same with some of the other categories.
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So, what is the way of salvation? To some, it is obviously work-related. To some it is philosophical. I better be careful about fundamentalism. Also. some had better be careful with modernism, including the use of religious films, which some deem sinful.
Some have gone beyond the "believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved..."
Cheers,
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It is not possible for someone who holds to the JW, Mormon, and Scientology beliefs to go to heaven and I'm surprised 2 voted yes for those.
It is only possible if they trust in the true Jesus - the JW Jesus is not God and the Mormon Jesus isn't either - they are both false Christs. The Mormon god is also not the Biblical God, and the way these 2 churches teach salvation is also not biblical.
Scientology doesn't even teach about a God - there is sort of a supreme being but it's very nebulous. I wonder if the 2 who voted yes on Scientology even know what Scientology teaches and believes.
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I just believe that God is greater than the hold of Scientology. Persons can be converted within those organizations and it may take years for them to find their way out. They will not be happy within the structure of the cult, but may remain for a long time because of the pressures of the group.
The question asked, "Is it possible...", not whether or not these groups are Christian, or nominally Christian.
Yes, it is possible. Most of these groups don't point toward Christ, but that's another matter. -
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Are you asking if someone holding to Mormon, JW, etc. beliefs can go to heaven with those beliefs, or can someone in those groups be saved out of them?
I took it the first way. -
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Certainly if any of the above "change their beliefs" and follow Christ, then salvation comes.
But, will there be any Catholics in heaven? Will there be any homosexuals in heaven? That is my question.
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This could be a very controversial topic, and may be before this thread 'runs its course.'
I disagree with anyone who says a Mormon or JW-- or 'cultists' generally-- "cannot go to heaven" [be saved] because people are individuals, as is salvation. Does everyone believe everything their religious body teaches them? That answer is almost so obvious as to be embarrassing. And if they do believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and for whatever reason(s) do not leave such a group, that is either salvation by works or 'falling from grace,' or both.
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There won't be any Baptists either.
There will simply be friends of Jesus who are recipients of God's grace through Christ.
There won't be any heterosexuals (at least, in the sense we know it now) either.
There will simply be people who now have pure identity as male and female creations of God, living in harmonious relationship. I do not know if there are sexual relationships in our glorified bodies. Apparently there is no marriage relationship between human beings as we know it now (Matthew 22:30).
Since that is nearly a forbidden topic here, let me give my viewpoint very succinctly and then state my position.
If you say a person who has feelings of attraction toward members of the same gender is a homosexual, then obviously, yes, there will be many homosexuals in heaven. In my opinion, just having feelings of sexual attraction is not sin, just temptation, but acting on those feelings is sin. (Just as a heterosexual may have feelings of sexual attraction to someone who is not his/her spouse. That is not sin. It is sinful when someone acts upon it, either in fantasy or in physical action.)
If you say a person is a homosexual who actively pursues homosexual acts, then the question is much trickier. At that point you would have to question whether or not that person is redeemed. It would be the same question you would have to ask regarding a heterosexual who was actively pursuing heterosexual relations with those who are not his/her spouse. Something is very wrong in their life. You would have to question whether or not that person is redeemed.
In any case, those who identify as hetero- or homosexual who pursue sexual immorality are certainly not living as disciples of Christ. -
Can a Mormon/JW go to heaven implies: can a person still believing what a Mormon or JW does go to heaven? The answer is clearly no. -
Re Catholics:I think there are saved Catholics so I think yes, those who are saved can go to heaven.
Re homosexual: We have 1 Cor. 6:9
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It seems that most Bible-believing Christians accept the idea there is not one single organization which exclusively is an implement of salvation, but are less accepting about the idea that a person must leave an organization which teaches bad/false doctrine. -
Otherwise, there is no point in asking the question. I don't think anyone here denies that someone who has trusted Christ is going to heaven. If they are still in the organization but have trusted Christ, they are, in effect, no longer a Mormon or JW, so the question is moot. -
God can regenerate ANY person "in Christ Jesus" except those whom the Bible names as reprobate. Judas, for example.
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The short answer: If they know Jesus as Savior, yes.
Like the old evangelist used to say, "If you ain't got Him, you ain't goin'."
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