Featured Israel as a Nation and God's Plan

There is spiritual israel, which are the saved Jews, and the lost ones, national israel?

 

The epistle is written to the saints at Rome. For sure the Jews in the congregation were getting told, 'There's NOTHING special about you'. Gentiles who have not the law, or have not heard the law, but do the law because the law has been written in their hearts, are justified. Those Jews were being told their circumcision in the flesh amounted to diddly squat. It was the circumcision not made with hands that determined who the true Jews were. The first two chapters of Romans builds to the question of 3:1

1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what is the profit of circumcision? Ro 3

And I'll give you a hint, a special, particular DNA was NOT their advantage.

 

Wrong. Two Israels. One after the flesh and the other of promise.

 

LoL...only *One* true Israel, but two Israels. Got it

 

Yea. Repeat it over and over till you 'get it':

For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel

For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel

For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel

25 Now this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to the Jerusalem that now is: for she is in bondage with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, which is our mother. Gal 4

Two Jerusalems, two Israels.

 

2 Ye know that when ye were Gentiles ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might led. 1 Cor 12

If they're no longer Gentiles they are....... the Israel of God!

15 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
16 And as many as shall walk by this rule, peace be upon them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. Gal 6

10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass that, in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Hos 1

 

Not sure what you're imagining to be included with "much every way".

Care to tell?

Don't be bashful, tell us how special you people are.

 

Scripture uses the term "the circumcision" to refer to Jews in general, but includes believing Gentiles.

Phil. 3:1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.​

This is a search for "the circumcision."

Put simply, unbelieving Jews & Gentiles are lost sinners who need to repent;
believing Jews & Gentiles inherit ALL the old covenant promises as one redeemed people of God.

The prophetic future for unbelieving Jews is judgment.

 

Paul's opinion of the Judaisers:

2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the concision: Phil 3

 

Christ didn't speak well of them either:

...the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews, and they art not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:9
...the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie... Rev 3:9

 

I am delighted to hear it and hope it continues. I don't see what it has to do with the building of a third temple. If anything, I would have thought mass conversions to Christianity would make that less likely. If God is bringing all the Jews back to Israel, it will happen and there's nothing I can do about it even if I wanted to, which I don't. However, I'm told that there are more Jews in New York than in the whole of Israel. so there's a bit of a way to go yet.

More Moslems are being saved today than ever before in history. Is that a mere coincidence, and does it have any connection to Jews becoming Christians?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

1, Do you believe that God is currently regathering the nation of Israel from the various other nations of the world?
No.

2, Will Jesus Christ return to the current geographical location that is modern day Jerusalem?
At least that, but I suspect that it will be something much more.

3, Do you believe that events that happen in Modern Day Israel are evidence of the fulfillment of Bible Prophecy?
No. Not more than any other nation.

4, Does the Temple have to be rebuilt before the return of Jesus Christ can take place?
No. The Temple because irrelevant to God's redeeming work at the death of Jesus. It did serve as a place of identity and worship after that, but it was not necessary to God's purposes. For that matter, the Tabernacle and Temple were NEVER required except as to serve as living image of God's redemptive work. The people of God did just fine before the Tabernacle was constructed, while in exile, and since the Second Temple was destroyed.

5, Will the current nation of Israel ever be expanded to its historical borders, encompassing Lebanon, Jordan and other areas?
Maybe, maybe not. It is irrelevant. The New Jerusalem is coming from the heavens, not from a human political entity.

6, If you traveled to Jerusalem as a tourist, would you place a prayer on paper into the wailing wall?
No, Jesus replaced the Temple. Moreover, the wailing wall is not a wall of the Temple, but a remnant of later construction and expansion of the Temple mount. A prayer on paper there is considered by God to be no more important than a written prayer in a spiral notebook in Las Vegas, Nevada. Both are known and heard.

7, Would traveling to Israel on vacation be something that you would consider to be a spiritual experience?
No.

8, Are Palestinian Christians being treated fairly or unfairly in the occupied territories by the Israeli authorities?
Yes

 

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Lol, well put!