My Child wants to see a Disney Movie.

[saturneptune]

I know there is no way to completely screen someone before they join, but lately, there is a rampant number of new members that come in from post one with no intent but to stir the pot, not debate. There is no doubt in my mind that some of these are the same person, because even a banned person can reappear with a new name. I have no idea why someone would want to spend the time and effort.

I believe it was mentioned above, but anyone who would write the phrase "I pray I go to heaven" is clueless to the Bible and the Gospel.

Oh, and if that is your real picture, I would strongly suggest you not point that finger in someone's face in real life.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

There is a difference between being a Guy on fire for the lord & a Nut. Me thinks u dere!:BangHead:

 

[ReformedBaptist]

Pastor Davis,

While many here are mocking and reviling you for your stand, and some merely disagreeing, it is well within your authority as a parent to withhold from your children worldly entertainments.

And I think your wish and desire to explain it to them is applaudable.

 

[saturneptune]

That is correct. Every parent has the right and authority to raise their children as they see fit. As long as warped ideas like that stay within a family or behind the doors of any given church, that is fine by me.

I raised my children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. They were disciplined, but not provoked. They were taught to love the Lord, pray, and read their Bible. They never missed a service. They grew up healthy individuals, and one is already starting a Christian family.

Now, what I did not do is make up a list of Disney movies with insane interpretations and ban them from watching them. I did not let them watch things like MTV, South Park, and the Simpsons, etc.

I think what we have here is a total lack of common sense as a parent. As parents, we are charged with raising our children, not to be of the world, but as long as they live, they will live in the world. Lots of mean people are out there, and everyone you pass is not Pat Boone, Sandra Dee, or Donnie Osmond.

Parents with this kind of mindset IMO do a great disservice to their children, by not teaching them the whole picture.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

That is correct. Every parent has the right and authority to raise their children as they see fit. As long as warped ideas like that stay within a family or behind the doors of any given church, that is fine by me.

I raised my children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. They were disciplined, but not provoked. They were taught to love the Lord, pray, and read their Bible. They never missed a service. They grew up healthy individuals, and one is already starting a Christian family.

Now, what I did not do is make up a list of Disney movies with insane interpretations and ban them from watching them. I did not let them watch things like MTV, South Park, and the Simpsons, etc.

I think what we have here is a total lack of common sense as a parent. As parents, we are charged with raising our children, not to be of the world, but as long as they live, they will live in the world. Lots of mean people are out there, and everyone you pass is not Pat Boone, Sandra Dee, or Donnie Osmond.

Parents with this kind of mindset IMO do a great disservice to their children, by not teaching them the whole picture.

I am sure you would not count yourself a perfect parent. None of us are. I do not myself take the stand the brother in this post does. I have prefered to reject the more profane, and teach discernment to my children in order for them to themselves discern the wickedness in disney movies and cartoons.

Others feel it prefectly fine to have their children educated by the state. I believe it morally and biblically wrong to do so. Let each parent judge as best as they can under God how they ought to bring up their children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.

 

[thegospelgeek]

No one is calling for suicide to avoid the temptations and the tools of the devil. But it's like this, God gave us a great big apple, and He said don't touch it. He didn't say touch it once in a while; He didn't say take a nibble when you're hungry; He said don't touch it. Don't think about touching 'it, don't talk about touching it, don't think about talking about touching it.

Where did he say this?

 

[Crabtownboy]

That is correct. Every parent has the right and authority to raise their children as they see fit. As long as warped ideas like that stay within a family or behind the doors of any given church, that is fine by me.

I raised my children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. They were disciplined, but not provoked. They were taught to love the Lord, pray, and read their Bible. They never missed a service. They grew up healthy individuals, and one is already starting a Christian family.

Now, what I did not do is make up a list of Disney movies with insane interpretations and ban them from watching them. I did not let them watch things like MTV, South Park, and the Simpsons, etc.

I think what we have here is a total lack of common sense as a parent. As parents, we are charged with raising our children, not to be of the world, but as long as they live, they will live in the world. Lots of mean people are out there, and everyone you pass is not Pat Boone, Sandra Dee, or Donnie Osmond.

Parents with this kind of mindset IMO do a great disservice to their children, by not teaching them the whole picture.

Good post.

I predict there is a high probability these children will reach a point, either in the mid to late teens or early twenties when they will rebel and it will not be pretty.

We had a young college student live with us one year who grew up in a very fundamental family. She had a deep faith in Jesus ... but finally rebelled against the extreme strictness her parents had imposed. It was not a pretty sight, but it was the only way this student felt that they could begin to live an independent life. All children have to find a way to begin to live their own independent life. Coming from a home with a dictator, even a loving, well meaning dictator often leaves them will little choice but rebelling. Usually as time passes these young people will return to a more acceptable lifestyle, unless they have so totally messed up their life there is no return. I hope this does not happen here, or to anyone. But being too strict brings makes this rebellion a real possibility.

 

[saturneptune]

I am sure you would not count yourself a perfect parent. None of us are. I do not myself take the stand the brother in this post does. I have prefered to reject the more profane, and teach discernment to my children in order for them to themselves discern the wickedness in disney movies and cartoons.

Others feel it prefectly fine to have their children educated by the state. I believe it morally and biblically wrong to do so. Let each parent judge as best as they can under God how they ought to bring up their children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.

You got that right. I made lots of mistakes. The two biggest were (even though they were junkers under $3000) was buying a car for each when they were seniors in high school. Another mistake I made was paying for all the college myself for two kids. It should have been split up in some fashion. However, they both did graduate with Bachelor's Degrees. Anything further will be their dime.

I cannot tell you as a parent why I chose to let them watch Disney movies, but not MTV, South Park, and the like. Other things as teens included strict times to be home at night, knowing who they were with and where they were going, and no back talk. When their friends were over, they were never allowed to shut their doors. It is not like they watched lots of movies, as school, sports, church, and other activities took up lots of their time.

I am sure you are doing a great job with your kids. Your posts always sound very reasonable, whether or not I agree. I think lots of the problem is someone starting off post number one is an obviously confrontational tone.

 

[jaigner]

We had a young college student live with us one year who grew up in a very fundamental family. She had a deep faith in Jesus ... but finally rebelled against the extreme strictness her parents had imposed. It was not a pretty sight, but it was the only way this student felt that they could begin to live an independent life. All children have to find a way to begin to live their own independent life. Coming from a home with a dictator, even a loving, well meaning dictator often leaves them will little choice but rebelling. Usually as time passes these young people will return to a more acceptable lifestyle, unless they have so totally messed up their life there is no return. I hope this does not happen here, or to anyone. But being too strict brings makes this rebellion a real possibility.

That story is mine, though thankfully not that extreme. If God wills and I ever have children, I am going to make it a point to use my nos as sparingly as possible. My parents did their best and, to their credit, were only trying to protect me, but it caused a bunch of anxiety/depression issues in my life. It's only been in the past couple of years that I have begun to make peace with it.

We have to interact with culture and we need to prepare children for that.

 

[saturneptune]

Good post.

I predict there is a high probability these children will reach a point, either in the mid to late teens or early twenties when they will rebel and it will not be pretty.

We had a young college student live with us one year who grew up in a very fundamental family. She had a deep faith in Jesus ... but finally rebelled against the extreme strictness her parents had imposed. It was not a pretty sight, but it was the only way this student felt that they could begin to live an independent life. All children have to find a way to begin to live their own independent life. Coming from a home with a dictator, even a loving, well meaning dictator often leaves them will little choice but rebelling. Usually as time passes these young people will return to a more acceptable lifestyle, unless they have so totally messed up their life there is no return. I hope this does not happen here, or to anyone. But being too strict brings makes this rebellion a real possibility.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

[annsni]

OK - So the OP has said that his wife took that picture and donated it to iStock Photo but then his brother-in-law went ahead, hacked into the computer, STOLE the picture and ... I guess went ahead and gave it to iStock when they had the photo already just to get the credit for it?

Yet nothing more has been said - he's disappeared?

Anyone want to call Harvest Baptist Church in Fort Dodge to see if they have a youth pastor and who he is? :thumbs:

 

[ReformedBaptist]

You got that right. I made lots of mistakes. The two biggest were (even though they were junkers under $3000) was buying a car for each when they were seniors in high school. Another mistake I made was paying for all the college myself for two kids. It should have been split up in some fashion. However, they both did graduate with Bachelor's Degrees. Anything further will be their dime.

I cannot tell you as a parent why I chose to let them watch Disney movies, but not MTV, South Park, and the like. Other things as teens included strict times to be home at night, knowing who they were with and where they were going, and no back talk. When their friends were over, they were never allowed to shut their doors. It is not like they watched lots of movies, as school, sports, church, and other activities took up lots of their time.

I am sure you are doing a great job with your kids. Your posts always sound very reasonable, whether or not I agree. I think lots of the problem is someone starting off post number one is an obviously confrontational tone.

There can be an ungodly fundamentalism that stifles and is damaging to people. We must be careful to avoid this. God has not called Dads to be authoritatians in their homes, but servant leaders. this is something I am learning to grow in.

Let us all learn to wash the feet of those God has made us in authority over, and learn to earn the respect of the same.

 

[jaigner]

OK - So the OP has said that his wife took that picture and donated it to iStock Photo but then his brother-in-law went ahead, hacked into the computer, STOLE the picture and ... I guess went ahead and gave it to iStock when they had the photo already just to get the credit for it?

Yet nothing more has been said - he's disappeared?

Anyone want to call Harvest Baptist Church in Fort Dodge to see if they have a youth pastor and who he is? :thumbs:

My guess is that whoever answered the phone wouldn't have very good hearing, anyway.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Pastor Davis,

While many here are mocking and reviling you for your stand, and some merely disagreeing, it is well within your authority as a parent to withhold from your children worldly entertainments.

And I think your wish and desire to explain it to them is applaudable.

Er, ahhhh, cough.....so BR, what are your views on inerracial marriage?

 

[Pastor Ezequiel Davis]

Andy Griffith Show: promotes exaltation of Judaism, disrespect to police, praises drunkeness and homosexuality (Cmon, Floyd the Barber...REALLY?)

Golden Girls: promotes promiscuity, divorce, female headship

Flintstones: promotes partner exchange, medieval values, animal worship, anti-creationist

Jetsons: New age, promiscuity, falsehood (I still have no flying car or conveyer belt in my house)

Gaither Videos: Promotes greed, love of money, and plays the same songs as the last darned tape by the same singers...and the same price.

Bugs Bunny: promotes homosexuality (He kissed Elmer Fudd a lot), disrespect to humans, reversal of created order (animals beating up humans), netherworld and demon world (like the monster with the tennis shoes in the haunted house)

Thank you for contributing to the list as I requested. And Reformed Baptist, thank's for kind words of support. It's refreshing to see someone else out there who understands the complex and delicate nature of child rearing.

 

[ccrobinson]

Lilo & Stitch - A story about a young girl who befriends a fury blue demon

Look, you don't have the plot of the movie right. You can't preach against something when you don't even know what the movie is about. Sort of makes you look like an idiot. You don't even have to watch the movie. A simple imdb search will tell you what this movie is actually about.

Sleeping Beauty - in a clear mockery of our Risen Lord and Savior, this story features a girl who is dead but brought back to life with a magic kiss. Encourages premarital fornication.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Sleeping Beauty wasn't dead. She was only sleeping. It's why the name of the story helpfully includes the word sleeping. Also, Princess Aurora and and Prince Philip got married immediately, so where's the premarital sex?

101 Dalmatians - This movie suggests God was lying when He said man would have all dominion over beast, by portraying a woman wanting to make a fur coat out of an animal skin as cruel.

??? You don't really have anything of substance to whine about here, so you're just making stuff up.

Pinocchio - A story about a puppet. As we know from Exodus, man is not supposed to form idols.

Pinocchio wasn't an image of God, nor was he an image of a false god, nor did anybody worship him. Your objection is null and void.

Cinderella - A story about an ungrateful girl who uses enlists the help of a witch to rebel against her step-mother.

Again, it's obvious you don't have a clue what you're preaching against. The so-called ungrateful girl was a slave to her stepmother and stepsisters.

Pocahontas - as well as promoting interracial romance, this movie lies about history by portraying Natives as being peaceful people who had their land usurped by cruel invading Europeans, rather than being savages who pre-stole God's country, America.

:laugh:

Savages who pre-stole God's country? Do you have any Scripture to back up this completely ludicrous statement?

And now an amusement attraction devoted to Harry Potter.

Disney has the Harry Potter amusement park attraction? Universal Studios would be very surprised to learn this. Don't take my word for it. Look it up for yourself.

My sermon seemed to go over well with the Church Members.

If I was in your church and you preached this garbage, I'd walk out and never come back. It's not that you preach against Disney, because I've heard this sort of stuff that Disney is evil before. I didn't believe it the first time I heard it and I don't believe it now.

My objection is that you don't have a clue about what you're preaching against. It's not hard to educate yourself about something, but you think you have all the answers already, so you didn't bother. I will not sit under preaching from a guy who thinks he has all the answers already and won't be bothered to get educated about what he's preaching against.

She put it up on istock and Jason hacked into her computer and stole her passwords and then stole some of her work and credited it to himself.

Sorry, don't believe it for a second. Sounds like the kind of convoluted story (read: lie) one of my kids tried on me.

 

[Pastor Ezequiel Davis]

Sorry, don't believe it for a second. Sounds like the kind of convoluted story (read: lie) one of my kids tried on me.

You are free to believe as you wish. However when your offspring lie to you it may be time to deliver some Proverbs 13:24, 22:15 and 23:14.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

A few weeks ago my 12 year daughter saw a billboard for a disney movie called "Toy Story 3" while we were driving to church. She asked me if it would be "Ok to view this film" I calmly explained to her that secular movies are against God and that Disney is clearly a tool of the Devil. I wanted to give her a more sound reason why I said no so she would not have any doubt. So I made "Disney" one of the topics of my Sermon last Sunday. As all us True Christians know, The Walt Disney Corporation is a tool of the devil but it requires a different approach in getting this message across to children. I assembled a short list warning why nobody should ever watch any of their evil movies. Help in contributing to the list would be greatly appreciated.
Tarzan - Encourages evolutionary THEORY by portraying monkeys being as intelligent as humans, walking and talking. And bringing man down to animal's level by showing a man living in the jungle, naked, and swinging from vines.

Beauty and the Beast - As we know from the Bible, the beast is another name for the Anti-Christ, the evil figure who will herald the end times. This movie tries to confuse children into thinking the Beast is really a nice, handsome prince in disguise.

Aladdin - Set amidst an obviously evil Muslim backdrop, this movie features a young man and a Princess who spend half the time half-nude on a carpet.

The Lion King - It is well known the plot of this movie was stolen from a play by a notorious Godless homosexual by the name of William Shakespeare.

Hercules - A complete mockery of Christianity. This movie blatantly promotes paganism, and suggests that the Greek pantheon of gods is true! Disgusting Satanist propaganda brainwashing our children.

Mulan - Promotes transvestism as being heroic and noble, and promotes feminazi ideals to young girls.

Lilo & Stitch - A story about a young girl who befriends a fury blue demon

Alice in Wonderland - Magic mushrooms, pipe smoke, psychedelic fantasy - this movie is promoting drug use to our children!

Snow White - a movie about a teenage runaway who moves in with seven strange men.

Fantasia - Promotes magic, sorcery and wizardry.

Peter Pan - Promotes witchcraft, shows children playing around with an evil spirit call "Tinkerbell", and encourages rebellion against parents.

Sleeping Beauty - in a clear mockery of our Risen Lord and Savior, this story features a girl who is dead but brought back to life with a magic kiss. Encourages premarital fornication.

101 Dalmatians - This movie suggests God was lying when He said man would have all dominion over beast, by portraying a woman wanting to make a fur coat out of an animal skin as cruel.

The Jungle Book - Promotes new age mentality for children to go out and befriend nature.

Pinocchio - A story about a puppet. As we know from Exodus, man is not supposed to form idols.

Cinderella - A story about an ungrateful girl who uses enlists the help of a witch to rebel against her step-mother.

Robin Hood - Steal from the rich to give to the poor? As if Obama wasn't doing enough to teach our children such rotten values.

Pocahontas - as well as promoting interracial romance, this movie lies about history by portraying Natives as being peaceful people who had their land usurped by cruel invading Europeans, rather than being savages who pre-stole God's country, America.

My sermon seemed to go over well with the Church Members. I may do a follow up Sermon next Sunday.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I like your avatar as well. BTW is that bible big enough to choke a donkey? If not you need to get a bigger one or bible bashing won't be what it was.

 

[Thinkingstuff]

My mom is 100% Puerto Rican, which means that I probably have African American, Native American/Caribbean, and perhaps European in me (PR had a very high rate of African Americans intermarrying hence the different skin type than you will see in Mexicans or even Cubans). Which means I am hispanic. My dad is 100% mutt from Kentucky... known as White but ancestors come from Scotland to Ireland to the USA. They were here in America to fight the American Revolution and was with Washington at the Battle of Yorktown (or so one book I read indicates).

My mom and I are planning on going back to PR next year. It will probably be her last time visiting.

I doubt very much this individual believes in the mixing of the races. Much like we must avoid mixed bathing. (which for ones not familiar with the phrase means mixed swimming)

 

[RAdam]

If one wants to find something wrong with something, they will.