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RECEIVING GOD'S SPIRIT IS CONDITIONAL ON BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING GOD'S WORD.

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  1. Alan Gross

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    Do Not 'pray' for me, 3rd whatever, I've got enough problems.
     
  2. Alan Gross

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    Someone adding to the Scriptures has more problems than they started with, when they are blind to it and have no possibility to consider their inability to decern that their additions are Satanic.

    Saved souls don't follow Satan or work for him to add words to The Bible.
     
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    Yet here you still are denying God's Word with your own words which are not God's Word not being able to respond to the scriptures that disagree with you. Does this not worry you? If it doesn't it should. Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings of men that deny the Word of God *ROMANS 3:4. We should not point people to the teachings of men over the Word of God. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind. He tells me it is those that see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all. If I did not believe him I would not know him. What can I do without him? He is love and now I love. I follow him now because I love him who first loved me. I do not judge you but His Word will judge us because they are there for all to see. All are welcome to see and hear God's Word, however many are called but few are chosen. Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils but His Word is promises to deliver us and it is here we must find safety. We ought to obey God rather than man. God is love and he that dwells in love dwells in God. Only God's Word is true and this is where I point you to. You can believe of not believe. It is God's Word not mine so you argue with God not me. God is calling you can you hear His Voice?

    God's Sheep hear His Voice (the Word). Those who do not hear and follow are not God's Sheep.
     
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    Then do not add to the scriptures. It will lead you away from God's Word. Pray and ask God to be your teacher *JOHN 14:26
     
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    "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:" I Corinthians 4:3


    But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost and think
    RECEIVING GOD'S SPIRIT IS CONDITIONAL ON BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING GOD'S WORD.
    The supernatural evil spirit of Satan teaches that.

    Soul's have to be lost before they are Saved.

    "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:" I Corinthians 4:3
     
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    Nope I tell you the truth but you do not believe. Only God's Word has been shared with you but you deny God's Word with your own words which are not God's Word. What is it that you do not believe from post # 137 linked that you will not respond to and if what I have shared with you is true, why do you not believe it? These are God's Word not mine and you do not believe them so your argument is with God not me.
     
  7. Alan Gross

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    Someone adding to the Scriptures has more problems than they started with, when they are blind to it and have no possibility to consider their inability to decern that their additions are Satanic. Saved souls don't follow Satan or work for him to add words to The Bible.
     
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    Alan your just repeating yourself without addressing the posts you are responding to. It may be better to agree to disagree and move on as I see your not here for a discussion of God's Word. Neither do you respond to my post. I wish you all the best. We all answer only to God come judgement day. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed or nothing hidden that shall not be made plain. I hope to see you in God's Kingdom.
     
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    But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost and think
    RECEIVING GOD'S SPIRIT IS CONDITIONAL ON BELIEVING AND FOLLOWING GOD'S WORD and "I tell you the truth but you do not believe. Only God's Word has been shared with you but you deny God's Word with your own words which are not God's Word. What is it that you do not believe from post # 137 linked that you will not respond to and if what I have shared with you is true, why do you not believe it? These are God's Word not mine and you do not believe them so your argument is with God not me.

    The supernatural evil spirit of Satan teaches that.


    With these false teaching demanded as a Testimony, the Testimony is that of someone saying they are a false teacher, who has never 'allowed' The God of The Bible to Place their soul under GOD'S Bible Doctrine of TOTALLY DEPRAVED.

    ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN TOTALLY DEPRAVED.

    NO HUMAN BEING HAS ANY ABILITY TO BELIEVE.

    NO HUMAN BEING HAS ANY ABILITY TO FOLLOW GOD'S WORD.

    HUMAN BEINGS DO NOT HAVE GOD'S SPIRIT.
     
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    "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:" I Corinthians 4:3

    "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:" I Corinthians 4:3

    "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:" I Corinthians 4:3
     
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    Then don't let it be hidden from you. Believe and follow God's Word. :)
     
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    If Satan's false teachers didn't have The Gospel hid from them, they would know what it is, and not say it isn't worth dung.
     
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    You must be born again.

    Remember, you are reasoning with a Totally Depraved mind.
     
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    Then do not let it happen to you. :)
     
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    Then be Born again and believe and follow God's Word and let this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus.
     
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    Thank you, for your Testimony.

    So, I may follow God's Word, as His sheep.

    Titus 3:9 "But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

    10. "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

    11 "Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself."

    You can go back to telling some little kid that a Saved soul, Paul, had FREE WLL FREE WILL FREE WILL IN 10 OR TWENTY VERSIONS.

    BLINDLY.
     
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    You responded to yourself..
    Alan, it sounds like you are talking to yourself in this post.
     
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    These words above are your words Alan, then we have God's Word that says...

    MARK 9:23, Jesus said to him, If you can believe, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE TO HIM THAT BELIEVES.

    MATTHEW 8:5-10 [5], And when Jesus was entered into Capernaum, there came to him a centurion, beseeching him,
    [6], And saying, Lord, my servant lies at home sick of the palsy, grievously tormented. [7], And Jesus said to him, I will come and heal him. [8], The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that you should come under my roof: but SPEAK THE WORD ONLY, AND MY SERVANT SHALL BE HEALED. [9], For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goes; and to another, Come, and he comes; and to my servant, Do this, and he does it. [10], When Jesus heard it, he marveled, and said to them that followed, Truly I say to you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

    Hmm sounds like God's Word disagrees with your words.

    JOHN 3:15-18 [15], That WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. [16], For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
    [17], For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18], HE THAT BELIEVES IN HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED; BUT HE THAT BELIEVES NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BELIEVED in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    If you do not choose to believe God's Word you do not have everlasting life...

    1 CORINTHIANS 7:37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power OVER HIS OWN WILL and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.

    PHILEMON 1:14 But apart from your consent, I wanted to do nothing, in order that your good deed might be not as according to necessity, but ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN FREE WILL

    Free will has no necessity and is under ones own power

    DEUTERONOMY 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

    JOSHUA 24:14-15 [14], Now therefore fear the LORD, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve you the LORD. [15], And if it seem evil to you to serve the LORD, CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHO YOU WILL SERVE; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

    Accordiong to God's Word (not mine) we have free will to choose to believe or not believe God's Word. Not looking so good for those who believe in robots.
    True but all things that are impossilbe with man are possible with God and those who believe Gods' Word *JOHN 15:1-10; MATTHEW 19:26. When JESUS bids us come we can walk on water *MATTHEW 14:28-29. Do you not know God's Word is God's power to all those who believe? It is by BELIEVING God's Word that JESUS gives us power to follow him *ROMANS 1:16
    Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's Word are given God's Spirit to follow him who calls us in love to love another *ACTS 2:38; ROMANS 8:1-4; GALATIANS 5:16.

    Sorry Alan God's Word (not mine) disagrees with you.
     
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