How so? AD 70 did not mean that God totally rejected the Jewish people, as he is dealing with them in time of Jacob troubles at end of this Age!
Spiritual Interpretation....pt4
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, Apr 25, 2017.
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Its called also the day of the Lord, and is yo Israel, right before the Messiah returns!
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Now show your verses that link the time of Jacobs trouble past that point...the end of the age was the end of the Jewish theocracy... -
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The consequences - the destruction by "the people of the prince who is to come" are clearly prophesied by Gabriel, the Lord Jesus, by Moses & Peter (Acts 3:22-23), by Paul in Acts & Epistles, & John in Revelation.
My interpretative method is primarily grammatical-historical, with reference to the fulfilment of prophecy in the NT. The literal understanding is straightforward. The objective of the 70 weeks declared in v. 24 was fulfilled in the ministry & death of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Separation of week 70 from weeks 1-69 defies all logic & grammatical reading. I suggest you read the bit in between Scofield's notes. -
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You stated "Preterism is very dangerous", which shows you don't know what you're talking about. It is in fact harmless. The religious fanaticism (not at all unlike that which brought about the Crusades) that has it's roots in misapplied prophecies is very dangerous. -
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I have been doing that since the very first thread on this issue! One cannot be a Preterist and consistently believe in the (future) coming of the Lord and resurrection of the dead. I have consistently demonstrated that by comparing scripture with scripture and bringing together related passages of scripture. I think denying these are very dangerous as it places one outside the faith. Perhaps that would be inconsequential for you since you would only lose your "time salvation."
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Are you insinuating Preterists are hell bound? Explain please. -
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So, who are you? How is it you throw "time salvation" in my face? -
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The Jews were declared "uncircumcised" by the Holy Spirit - Acts 7:51. Many continued to be saved - not least Saul/Paul. Zechariah 13:9 indicates that 1/3 of the Jews will be saved before the destruction. Jesus quotes v. 7 about the disciples being scattered at his arrest. John makes the number from the tribes of Israel as 144,000.
Jews were & are saved by repentance & baptism in the name of Jesus. I don't know the dating of the Acts events, but 3 1/2 years is indicated by Gabriel. That's the second half of the 70th week.
His Bible fundamentalism was a bulwark against the rise of modernism & his Genesis "gap" theory gave an argument against evolution. In my student days Scofield was often quoted.
I hold a 'partial' Preterist position. -
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Denying the resurrection of the dead or holding to an interpretation that logically and necessarily leads one to do so is not benign.
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. -1 Co. 15.12-19
Are you now going to demonstrate how you can believe Mt. 24-25 was fulfilled historically and how you can still believe in the resurrection of the dead in light of Dan. 12.1, 2? I would also be interested in your interpretation and application of 1 Th. 4.15-5.10 and how they relate to Mt. 24-25. -
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