Lol...you can't just mix demographics, huh? Then why are we mixing women in to our general pop survey when none are extant in MLB?
The NFL: Now America's most hated major sport
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Oct 8, 2017.
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This is a horshoes and hand grenade accurate conversation, not a statistical dissertation.
Nobody is saying that the % of black people out of everyone is exactly equal to the % of black males out of all males. But it's in the ballpark. -
The stats about black males being under-represented in the MLB are, generally speaking, accurate. Assuming that males and females are an even split in both white people and black people, then the taking a sample of males in the age range of playing in the MLB, then black males would comprise roughly 13% of the sample, much like the general population. It's basic statistics.
However, the word "under-represented" has a negative connotation to it that it shouldn't necessarily have. It merely means that there is a lesser ratio present in the sample than in the general population. It doesn't mean that the MLB is racist. There are many, many factors which play in.
One of the biggest in my mind is the fact that black people tend to congregate in the inner city. Baseball is not a big thing in the inner city at all. It is more geared towards basketball on the street, and football/basketball in the schools. You'll notice that the percentage of black men playing in the NBA is much higher than in the general population.
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Systemic racism is not to blame for the decrease of black players. Like most issues the contributing factors are manifold. Overall youth participation in baseball has declined steadily for the past 18 years. Correspondingly youth participation in soccer and lacrosse has increased more than the decline in youth baseball participations decline. One reason for the decline is that participation in baseball has become more organized. In many areas, gone are the days when all you needed was a glove. Travel teams cost money and an investment in time for parents. Baseball also does not appeal to a generation that is growing up on video games and wireless devices. Because youth baseball has become more organized and costly, inner-city youth are at a disadvantage. Many do not have the money to join a travel team. It is much easier to grab a basketball and hit the court. Most Latino players are foreigners, not United States citizens. Youth baseball participation is also down for Americans of Latino descent. Major League baseball does have inner-city programs to increase youth participation, but the issue really has to be addressed at the local level. -
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Do you consider it a problem that whites are grossly under representented in the NFL and the NBA? It's hypocritical/prejudicial of you if you don't.
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Certain demographics (income, geographical location, gender, race) favor certain sports, for a variety of reasons.
I reckon MLB wants viewers and ticket/jersey purchasers. If under-representation in the ranks is a reflection of a certain demographics disinterest in the sport in general, then surely MLB would have some interest in investigating what has caused the decline. Because it may be costing them money.
But at the end of the day, people like what they like. -
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You got your 2017 "stat" from an article written in 2014? -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite SupporterJerome said: ↑Huh?
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporterkyredneck said: ↑Why do you consider this "a problem"?Click to expand...
Do you consider it a problem that whites are grossly under representented in the NFL and the NBA? It's hypocritical/prejudicial of you if you don't.Click to expand...
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite SupporterJerome said: ↑How is 8.5 lower than 6.7?Click to expand...
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InTheLight said: ↑I already addressed this upstream:Click to expand...
Carry on.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite SupporterReformed said: ↑I didn’t mean to steal your thunder. It’s hard to dissect long threads. I also have a few posters on ignore, so I may have missed something in the thread.
Carry on.
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InTheLight said: ↑Baseball has their own problems--games are too long, quality of play is degenerating, the leagues mess around with the game by juicing the ball, blacks are under represented.......Click to expand...
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite SupporterCalminian said: ↑Then when called out for saying it's a problem—an obvious discrimination accusation.Click to expand...
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InTheLight said: ↑....Yes, I state facts and then you come along and call me a racist. Yet, I'm the troll. Puh-leeze.Click to expand...
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