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    I thought I would put my perspective in one condensed corner. This so, my post are not all scattered and all may get the full picture of God's Song given me . Take what is put upon my heart as food for thought. My brothers will affirm what I say when God brings them forth -The Two Witnesses. They will come forth as this testimony grows to its fullness.

    As always , I am not promoting a denomination, simply put..... I am in pursuit of Truth. This should be evidence enough that I am not part of some cult or sect . For both promote their OWN agenda. I am not! I am promoting Love in Christ. I am not telling anyone to leave their church but to simply be a TRUE Christian. I am commissioned to teach OUTSIDE of the TENTS which means near ,outside of the present tents (denominations) not in.
    Song of Solomon 1:6-8
    The Bride Confesses Her Love
    …6Do not stare because I am dark, for the sun has gazed upon me ( Sun of Rev. 12). My mother’s sons were angry with me; they made me a keeper of the vineyards, but my own vineyard I have neglected.( I am now Redeemed ,Rev.14)

    7Tell me, O one I love, where do you pasture your sheep? Where do you rest them at midday? Why should I be like a veiled woman beside the flocks of your companions? 8If you do not know, O fairest of women, follow the tracks of the flock, and graze your young goats near the tents of the shepherds.…
    The Atonement and the Scapegoat:
    The traditional reading for morning focuses on the offerings that Aaron is to bring before God as atonement. He must make expiation for himself, then his household, and only after this is an offering brought for the entire community. The Yom Kippur service that the priest performed in the ancient Temple on Yom Kippur was a precursor to what Christ would do and be. That ritual Christ fulfilled . He being the last sacrifice and scapegoat for all . I will bring forth those in His like and image - The Two Witnesses, and those who will follow them of the Jews.

    Isaiah 54:1-3
    Future Blessings for Zion
    1“Shout for joy, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth into song and cry aloud, you who have never travailed; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband,” says the LORD. 2“Enlarge the site ( From where the Rev.14 are at) of your tent ( New Song=teaching =NEW SONG but it is the eternal gospel), stretch out the curtains=(Grace) of your dwellings, do not hold back. Lengthen your ropes(Reach of my faith) and drive your stakes deep( Teachings through the suffering of Christ). 3For you will spread out to the right and left;=( The ropes which bind falsehoods teachings through the reach of Christianity) your descendants will dispossess the nations and inhabit the desolate cities.…

    DISPOSSESS means they will leave the nations they are presently in, when God ordains so. A descendant in this case are those who will come forth from the teachings of the Rev.14 Elect.

    I , at the moment am barren , but my Song given me Rev.14 will eventually bring forth children. During a time of desolation my children will be many . I have no husband -denomination. I am nondenominational because I have been made into a pure virgin through upholding the position of (The First To Know's teachings). I have but ONE husband-(CHRIST), no denominational fathers / church fathers . I have Christ and my brothers -Apostles and one mother NO church but MOTHER MIRYAM mother of Christ. Why because the denominations have become impure.
    2 Corinthians 11:1-2
    Paul and the False Apostles
    1I hope you will bear with a little of my foolishness, but you are already doing that. 2I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. For I promised you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.

    I have not been defiled (INDOCTRINATED) I have never been so entrenched in a denomination that I can not see a truth when put forth, like so many have. I can separate the truth from the lies of denominations.
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    This ties in with the Rev.14 prophecy.
    Isaiah 54 :1-17 Future Blessings for Zion

    1“Shout for joy, O barren woman,

    who bears no children;

    break forth into song and cry aloud,

    you who have never travailed;

    because more are the children of the desolate woman

    than of her who has a husband,”

    says the LORD.

    2“Enlarge the site of your tent,

    stretch out the curtains of your dwellings,

    do not hold back.

    Lengthen your ropes

    and drive your stakes deep.

    3For you will spread out to the right and left;

    your descendants will dispossess the nations

    and inhabit the desolate cities.

    4Do not be afraid, for you will not be put to shame;

    do not be humiliated, for you will not be disgraced.( At present I am rejected by all the denominations and continuously have insults hurled at me).

    For you will forget the shame of your youth ( I am a NEW SEASON the best saved for last.)

    and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood.( I am a widow because I have NO denomination).

    5For your husband is your Maker—

    the LORD of Hosts is His name—

    the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;( Because I am a redeemed one of those spoken of in Rev.14)

    He is called the God of all the earth.

    6For the LORD has called you back,( COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE Rev.18:4)

    like a wife deserted and wounded in spirit,

    the wife of one’s youth when she is rejected,”

    says your God.( Myself and the like are rejected in the youth of our season the New Wine , Best wine saved for last.)

    7“For a brief moment I forsook you,

    but with great compassion I will bring you back.( Back to His Heart and Israel).

    8In a surge of anger

    I hid My face from you for a moment,

    but with everlasting kindness I will have compassion on you,”

    says the LORD your Redeemer.

    9“For to Me this is like the days of Noah,( Proof that this is for NOW for at no other time since Christ came has it been like the Days of Noah.)

    when I swore that the waters of Noah

    would never again cover the earth.(37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man.Matthew 24:37)

    So I have sworn that I will not be angry with you

    or rebuke you.

    10Though the mountains may be removed

    and the hills may be shaken,( Rev.6 :12-15 And when I saw the Lamb open the sixth seal, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars of the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind.14The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place. 15Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the commanders, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and free man, hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains.…)

    My loving devotion will not depart from you,

    and My covenant of peace will not be broken,”

    says the LORD,

    who has compassion on you.

    11“O afflicted city, lashed by storms,

    without solace,( Spiritual Jerusalem)

    surely I will set your stones in antimony

    and lay your foundations with sapphires.

    12I will make your pinnacles of rubies,

    your gates of sparkling jewels,

    and all your walls of precious stones.

    13Then all your sons will be taught by the LORD,

    and great will be their prosperity.

    14In righteousness you will be established, far from oppression,

    for you will have no fear,

    and removed from terror,

    for it will not come near you.

    15If anyone attacks you, it is not from Me;

    whoever assails you will fall before you.

    16Behold, I have created the craftsman

    who fans the coals into flame

    and forges a weapon fit for its task;

    and I have created the destroyer

    to wreak havoc.

    17No weapon formed against you shall prosper,

    and (you will refute every tongue that accuses you).(Rev.145And no lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.)

    This is the heritage of the LORD’s servants,

    and their vindication is from Me,”

    No one can win against TRUTH!

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    Psalm 23:5
    5You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
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    From My cup to Your cup, so forth and so on❤!

    This is a Christian discussion corner which addresses The End Times, scripture and the prophetic world events held within.

    I hope you will enjoy your time here and that it will be fruitful.

    STATEMENT OF PURPOSE:
    Here with the End Time Wine , you are introduced to the end time church "Kuria" (who is) and her offspring "Kyrie" (who are to be). All are welcomed and you stand to learn a lot from the Kuria-(Noble Lady) :

    2John 1:1-2Greeting from the Elder
    "1The elder, To the elect lady and her children ( Greek :Kuria- Noble Lady, Hebrew: eshet chayil, “woman of valor”) and Her children (called (Kyrie)-Greek "Lord have Mercy",( Hebrew răḥem-na ), whom I love in the truth — and not I alone, but also all who
    know the truth — 2because of the truth that abides in us and will be with us forever"
    This opening statement means: God will pour out the same Mercy and Grace upon the Last elect as He did upon the first. That is why she is sister to the first church. John says: " 13 The children of your chosen sister send you their greetings". The End Time Elect are
    ( Kopia) -a copy of the original.
    2 John was written in Greek. The word for “ Noble Lady” -(Kuria),and (Kyrie) -"children" were proper names used to address a future church. So that those who think that St.
    John addresses “the elect Kuria and Kyrie” are at liberty to do so. Historically it is believed this letter is to a noble Christian matron (one woman) and her children.
    Though many historical scholars feel this was to an individual woman and her children, it was not. It is to a future church and her children (offspring) that will exist during the End of Days.

    Obviously, the Lady is born out of NOBILITY so she must be born out of a "Queen". This has to do with the Song of Solomon which will be explained at this corner (Corner Stone) . Queens are denominations which have honor to Mother Mary and Rites in their practices. Kuria (the Last Church) , her nobility comes from her loyalty to the Blessed Mother, which makes her born from Christ's heart- in WISDOM . Concubines do not have this RITE , they have no Rites for that matter and therefore produce NO FIRST FRUITS= (Those of the First Resurrection). This will require prayerful study, that this Corner will help guide in. The Song of Solomon will be revealed in here.

    CONTINUING:

    Enoch foretold of this "Elect Generation"(Enoch 1:1-3) THE WORDS OF THE BLESSING OF ENOCH, WHEREWITH HE BLESSED THE ELECT AND RIGHTEOUS, WHO WILL BE LIVING IN THE DAY OF TRIBULATION, WHEN ALL THE WICKED AND THE ONES THAT KNOW NOT YAHWEH AND YEHSHUA ARE TO BE REMOVED. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by YAHWEH, saw the vision of the Kodesh One (Ruach ha'Kodesh is the beautiful Hebrew title of the Spirit of Yahweh) in the heavens, which the Malakim (Angels) showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, BUT NOT FOR THIS GENERATION, BUT FOR A REMOTE ONE WHICH IS FOR TO COME.

    The Last Generation for the Kingdom of heaven! The book of Revelation tells us the sign which denotes her arrival....... The Woman of Revelation 12! She is a purified Virgin church known as the Elect. She is fashioned in the Image of Mother Miriam or Miryam Hebrew for English name of mother (Mary). Image meaning- like:In spiritual virginity, (Purity) in Grace and function. And is accompanied by spiritual gifts, and authority represented by the child she bore, who was caught up to God and His throne!
    This sign which appeared in the celestial bodies , with its fullness on September 23, 2017 is the signal of Kuria's arrival . The sign concluded over Israel! This means the End Time Wine is being poured out upon the Elect gentile who will be brought to Israel at the appropriate time! This is such an exciting time for believers of Yeshua ha-Meshiach (Jesus the Christ)! This End Time Wine is in the mystery of the Wedding Feast at Canaan. It is the best wine served at the end of the feast.
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    John 2:1-12 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)

    2 On Tuesday there was a wedding at Kanah(Cannan) in the Galil; and the mother of Yeshua was there. 2 Yeshua too was invited to the wedding, along with his talmidim ( disciples) . 3 The wine ran out, and Yeshua’s mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” 4 Yeshua replied, “Mother, why should that concern me? — or you? My time hasn’t come yet.” 5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” 6 Now six stone water-jars were standing there for the Jewish ceremonial washings, each with a capacity of twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Yeshua told them, “Fill the jars with water,” and they filled them to the brim. 8 He said, “Now draw some out, and take it to the steward (man) in charge of the banquet”; and they took it. 9 The steward (man) in charge tasted the water; it had now turned into wine! He did not know where it had come from, but the servants who had drawn the water knew. So he called the bridegroom 10 and said to him, “Everyone else serves the good wine first and the poorer wine after people have drunk freely. But you have kept the good wine until now!” 11 This, the first of Yeshua’s miraculous signs, he did at Kanah in the Galil; he manifested his glory, and his talmidim came to trust in him. 12 Afterwards, he, his mother and brothers, and his talmidim went down to K’far-Nachum and stayed there a few days.

    MEANING: Yeshua asks why this should concern Him and His mother because it does concern them . Though posed as a question , it is actually more of a statement to His mother and a question posed to us. See, the wine that has been served up for centuries will cease. This , in order for the New Wine to be served up to the STEWARD (Jacob-Israel and the remnant). Israel is who the man / steward is , in this dialogue . See, Israel is the Steward of the Faith= where the provisions ( teachings of God through the SCRIPTURES) of the faith have come from. The End Time Wine -(Best Wine saved for Last) this knowledge of the Kingdom of Heaven is to be brought to Israel. The knowledge is the understanding of the Old Covenant stories and all scripture and what is to be kept/ preserved out of all the denominations , concerning True doctrines and Dogmas. In the end there will be no more division , not many denominations but ONE Virgin Church, with a Holy offspring!

    There has been a lot of wine( knowledge) served up to Israel and the world over the centuries, now Christ is serving up the Best for Last. This End time Church is sister to the first . Hence, why brother/ apostle John says:

    2 John 1:
    12 Although I have much to write you people, I would rather not use paper and ink. Instead, I hope to come and see you and to talk with you face to face, so that our joy may be complete. ( John is one of the Witnesses, that will be explained in this Corner . He will speak to us face to face).

    13 The children of your chosen sister send you their greetings.

    AGAIN: THE LAST CHURCH IS AN EXACT COPY of the first in function and purity . It is a copy (Kopia) of the original.

    Now the children of your chosen sister means- Chosen church or elect of the first to know beginning with Mother Miryam (Mary). And now the Last church will be Like the first. A chosen elect "mother" NOW in image of the Blessed Mother = like in purity of spirit (virginal) not defiled by satan.
    And will bring forth Christ in the souls of all who seek.
    2 Corinthians 11:1-3
    Paul and the False Apostles

    1I hope you will bear with a little of my foolishness, but you are already doing that. 2I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. For I promised you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ. 3I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ.…


    The NOBLE LADY (Kuria) is a spiritual Mother , this is the LAST church who will bring the end time Jews of election, to the fullness of the faith. Those Jews will be Kuria's offspring (Kyrie).

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    The teachings of the (First to Know), perfect this Mother Church and make her as a Pure Virgin before Christ. Then Kuria (The Noble Lady) will bringing forth a pure Christ like offspring for this end of days from among Jews. Kuria is under the mantle of the Mother of the MESSIAH (Christ).

    We have had, throughout the centuries, types of wine served up by the bridegrooms( Priest , Rabbis, Pastors )and brides ( Churches). Some of the wine has been good and some not so good but, it is time for the Best Wine saved for the end of the Wedding feast. The Wedding Feast represents the time of Denominations- Greek Orthodox (including all Orthodox Christian denominations), Roman Catholic (including all affiliations) and Protestantism (includes all its thousands of sects). However, of these there are only according to the Song of Solomon 6: 8There are sixty queens and eighty concubines, and maidens without number, 9but my dove, my perfect one, is unique, the favorite of the mother who bore her. The maidens see her and call her blessed; the queens and concubines sing her praises.…
    See, sixty Queens and eighty concubines, that means ; The 60 queens are churches that have rites and that venerate the Mother Mary as Theotokos. Concubines are: churches that have no Rites but do have a purpose in spreading Christ's name. However ,they do not produce first fruits= those of the First Resurrection (explained in this corner).

    Maidens without number: are those who have yet to have Christ's name= become Christian they, have no union with Christ and have not received water baptism.

    Concubines get out of line though and some try to challenge the Queens and their doctrines. A concubine has no authority to do so. And instead ends up removing the heart and meat of the word. Which in turn will get them expelled, excommunicated from the body of Christ by the HOLY SPIRIT.

    Concubines should remain simply in praise of Christ and not try to correct the queens. That is Kuria's job. She knows the queens well, and being a Shulammite ( meaning) :comes from a place of Peace= The Holy Spirit........she is raised up to correct the queens. Most Protestant sects are simply concubines and do not hold the heart (RITES) of the faith.

    The End of the Wedding Feast means: The Last Days of the End Times. The End of the Age is drawing to a close. Before its close, the denominations we have all known will cease producing WINE . Therefore, a New and Final Wine must be given.

    These denominations have provided for men and women of faith ( a certain type of wine ) throughout their existence. Their time is running out! There will come a time that they will cease to be and ONE UNITED Christian assembly will stand! This diminishing process has already begun. THE BEST WINE SAVED FOR THE END OF THE AGE, is being given to the chosen servants of Mother Miryam (Mary) for Christ. She tells them " do whatever He tells you"! This charge is because today's denominations have not been doing that. They have resorted to replacement theology which dilutes the gospel of Yeshua ha Meshiach (Jesus Christ). People have started leaning upon the precepts of men not the Beloved. They have , throughout the ages , formulated many doctrines through self as oppose to what the scriptures say. With the servants election they will draw out those who have been baptized by water in denominations in the name of Jesus Christ / Holy Trinity.

    WHAT THE CLAY JARS MEAN CONCERNING TIME : 6 Now six stone water-jars were standing there for the Jewish ceremonial washings, each with a capacity of twenty or thirty gallons.

    6 is not the number of completion, 7 is. And actually that which is drawn out is the complete number of those who are called chosen and worthy and will complete the 7 fold grace of God. Throughout the centuries of DENOMINATIONS only a certain number of souls have been (actual) true Christians. Each jar represents different times in the History of Christianity of which only 20-30% of souls have been actually preserved throughout each phase of Christian history. Depending on the full number of those who identify as Christian throughout the ages- seasons of the History of denominations / churches , determines what that 20/30% which are actually God's, is. We are now at those last souls of both Jew and of Gentile nations.

    Turning Points of the Church in Christian History:
    1.50 AD: The Council at Jerusalem

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    1. Though historically we mark Pentecost as the birth of the Church, the Council at Jerusalem is where it began to take shape. The account is to be found in Acts 15. With the two most significant figures in early Christianity, Paul and Peter, present, a major decision was made. 'Some believers who belonged to the sect of the Pharisees stood up and said, 'It is necessary for them to be circumcised and ordered to keep the law of Moses,' we read. The response was foundational for the Church – in the words of James, 'God first looked favourably on the Gentiles.' This meant that from now on, the Church wasn't just to be composed of observant Jewish followers of Jesus, but also of Gentile Christians. Without this council, the Gentile Christians in history wouldn't have been a full part of the Church.

    2. May 20–June 19, 325: The Council of Nicea

    The Council of Nicea was a vital event in deciding orthodox Christian doctrine. Called partly for political reasons by the Emperor Constantine, theologians and bishops met in the year 325. They were contending with Arianism, a theology which taught Jesus as a creature rather than creator. Not only did the Council decide that this was an incorrect view, it also prompted the writing of the Nicene Creed. That creed (which was amended 70 years later) codified the orthodox Trinitarian doctrine which Churches the world over still profess today.

    3. July 16, 1054: The Great Schism

    Although there had already been one split in the Church, in 451, the Great Schism was the first time that Christendom had been entirely divided into two camps. The Eastern and Western Churches had been growing apart in their theology and practice for hundreds of years. In 1054, the divide was formalized by the excommunication of the leaders of what became Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy by each other. There were a number of theological differences which caused the split, along with a power struggle. The Church remains divided almost 1,000 years later. Most Christians in the West are the inheritors of that western Christian tradition which formally dates from 1054. During the fourth Crusade, western Christian soldiers sacked Constantinople in 1204, which ensured centuries of enmity which are only beginning to be resolved now.


    4. October 31, 1517: The beginnings of the Reformation

    Five hundred years ago, in 1517, Martin Luther sparked the Reformation. Though he wasn't the first dissident in western Europe, he was articulate, obstinate and forceful. The Western Church itself would divide as a result into Catholic and Protestant. Hot on the heels of Luther, other giant figures such as Jean Calvin in Geneva, John Knox in Scotland, Ulrich Zwingli in Zurich and Thomas Cranmer in England began to reform the Church; again, a mix of theology and politics was at play. Now, so many years later, there is good dialogue between Catholics and Protestants, but the formal division remains. It also brought the "Baptist"In 1612, Thomas Helwys established a Baptist congregation in London, consisting of congregants from Smyth's church. A number of other Baptist churches sprang up, and they became known as the General Baptists. The Particular Baptists were established when a group of Calvinist Separatists adopted believers' Baptism.

    5. May 24, 1738: John Wesley's heart is strangely warmed

    If the Reformation had created Protestantism, then it would be in England that what we now know as evangelicalism began. On May 24, 1738, John Wesley was sitting in a church in the City of London when he felt his heart 'strangely warmed'. This began a revival in England which was powered by what became known as Methodism. Alongside his hymn-writing brother Charles and his sometime sparring partner George Whitfield, Wesley became the pioneer of a revival which spread widely. He preached to vast crowds and inspired millions with his message. That message was carried across both sides of the Atlantic and led to the evangelical Church we know today. With the off shoot of that ......Mormonism : is the predominant religious tradition of the Latter Day Saint movement of ... Mormonism originated in the 1820s in western New York during a period of religious excitement known as the "Second Great Awakening". Blah, blah, so forth and so on,etc........

    6. April 9, 1906: Azusa Street Revival

    In 1906, a movement began in California which would shape the face of the future of Christianity. The Azusa Street revival is considered to be the start of what we now know as the Pentecostal movement. Speaking in tongues, miraculous healings and other 'signs and wonders' were part of the movement from early on. Rapidly spreading across the United States, Pentecostalism has become a major player in world Christianity with countries as diverse as Brazil, South Korea and Nigeria emerging as powerhouses of Pentecostal Christianity. There are thought to be hundreds of millions of Pentecostal Christians in thousands of churches worldwide. This movement has also given rise to many other sects such as the "Born Again" and all else which has followed in removing the HEART "Meat" of the teachings of Christ . It is like the further in time Christianity is carried the more watered down is the "teaching" of it from denominations .


    All that has happened has lead to this prophesied movement BY GOD........

    7. September 23, 2017: The Revelation 12 sign appears in the celestial bodies and fulfills prophecy.
    This is the Last and Final movement. It consist of Christians redeemed and sealed out of both Gentile and Jewish nations. This is what Revelation 14 and 7 represents. It is the number of completion 288,000. This number comes out to be the 20-30% who are ACTUALLY true CHOSEN Christians. In both word and deed they serve Christ. They do not just use His name they believe all He says and come in His name! This is Kuria (The Noble Woman) who is a Shulammite= Peace maker, she comes from a place of peace. She is TRULY sister to the first , a Kopia of it.


    The Rev.14 portion are called out of Queen denominations and are to preserve ONLY TRUTH. The Revelation 14 portion are out of nations= Gentile nations and are given a New Song. No one can learn this song except this 144, 000. The clay jars for the waters of purification represent the different seasons in the history of the faith and the denominations which have come forth in these seasons. Some of their doctrines will be kept but will be made Potent. Things such as doctrines called Dogmas will be tweaked, such as titles given to the mother of Christ, will be CORRECTLY defined, for the purpose of serving the Elect Jews of this age.

    For today, those who actually believe in their baptism ( the baptismal waters of purification) , they too will be drawn out by the elect servants. This is meaning within meaning. Not only are the servants to serve up the( BEST) New End Time wine , they will also be given charge to draw out some souls and Christ will make them POTENT just as some of the kept doctrines! Christ will turn the water POTENT in making some souls filled with the Best Wine. This also means, the servants will only preserve TRUTH and all impotent doctrine will be left behind. God is not IMPOTENT He is POTENT and so are His servants. Anything that is NOT pure Virginal doctrine is perverse doctrine. No lie can be embraced by the Immaculate Bride of Christ. she is Holy as God is Holy.
    1 Peter 1:15
    A Call to Holiness

    …15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners.…

    Peter quotes this:
    Leviticus 19:2

    "Speak to the entire congregation of the Israelites and tell them: 'Be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy.

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    So....... all the Bride does as the congregation of God, is a reflection and magnification of our God.
    No perverse thing can leave our mouths concerning doctrine or otherwise!
    Proverbs 10:31-32
    31 The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom,
    but the perverse tongue will be cut off.
    32 The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable,
    but the mouth of the wicked what is perverse.


    The Excellence of Wisdom 8:12-14

    …12"I, wisdom, dwell with prudence, And I find knowledge and discretion. 13"The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil way And the perverted mouth, I hate. 14"Counsel is mine and sound wisdom; I am understanding, power is mine.…

    Taming the Tongue James3:6-8

    …6The tongue also is a fire, a world of wickedness among the parts of the body. It pollutes the whole person, sets the course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. 7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles, and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.…

    All are welcome to study from here. NOT ONE WORD IS TO BE ALTERED , neither add to or take away from. If you wish to share with others for study you may do so. All must remain as IS. If anyone were to add or take away from this teaching which is the everlasting gospel, those plagues mentioned in Revelation shall come upon you!
    Revelation 22:
    Nothing May Be Added

    18I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. 20He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!…

    Let it be as my brother John states!
    WHY, because the NEW SONG / NEW WINE is the eternal gospel.
    Revelation 14:
    The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall

    5And no lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless. 6Then I saw another angel flying overhead, with the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on the earth— to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. 7He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come. Worship the One who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and the springs of waters.”

    Angels Song I:
    Joy , joy let be to all those who see,
    Cry, cry to all those who are blind,
    For the angels bring forth a message from the Lord!

    Let it roar,
    Let it soar,
    As it descends upon the earth,
    Open your heart and see all its worth,
    Delve into the mysteries of the Lord!

    Feel the essence from within,
    See the glory that it brings!

    Sing the song of the angels in flight,
    For the Lord has bestowed the gift of sight!

    To see all that which is good, give , give of thy breath,
    Give , give of thy heart!

    Blind, blind no longer be blind to the slights of mankind.
    For the Lord has given light ,
    So those without sight may see the glory of God's might!


    LIFE:
    As I go through life I see that which is important;
    A subtle smile,
    A child's cry as the wind sighs,
    I hear the soft whispers of the angels from inside.

    I glide , flowing upon life's shifts and currents,
    With an everlasting Life Force which carries me to my next cycle.

    The joys, the pain if not claimed, I could never gain the inspiration of life.
    I could not have LIFE!
    For to live;
    Is to embrace the sorrows , the joys, the smiles , the cries
    And the Glory of Mankind in Jesus the Christ!


    As is stated: All are welcome to study here, it matters not your station, status , denomination. This corner is for study take it or leave it, your choice. but you can only be Blessed by accepting it. You will find NO lie in here. All the denominational doctrines are tested by the written Word here and what is truth is all that will remain standing.

    2 Timothy 3:16
    "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for making doctrine, for conviction, for correction, and for training in
    righteousness,"

    All denominations hold truth and falsehoods that is what is being addressed here. All denominations are given esteem for what is TRUE and Faithful to what has been handed down to us by the apostles, and all the scriptural patriarchs and matriarchs.

    Respect is given to all the GOOD present in the denominations . However, any falsehoods taught by the denominational "doctrinal fathers" will NOT be embraced OVER the Word. If their doctrine can not be support by the Beloved upon whom I lean then their fault is pointed out and correction / admonishment is given.

    The "doctrinal father's" who may have faults........their teachings must be dismantled by SCRIPTURE ALONE, of course guided by the Holy Spirit.
    Meaning - the Holy Spirit guides me to the scriptures which dispute/ refute an assertion contrary to truth. With scripture esteem too is given . This is in essence, a time of cleaning house. It is a time for listening to what the Spirit says to the churches. It is NOT a wrap! For the eternal gospel is just that ETERNAL. Therefore , NEVER ENDING!
    There is still much to be taught and done. This is a CORNER for intelligent study of theological doctrines , prophecy and all scripture. With that said read post with a bible in hand. When you see there is no disputing/ refuting what is said, please feel free to share with whom you seek to bless!
    Sincerely,
    Danielle Niccole.
    A Mosso Santa Maria Assunta Publication.
    All Rights ® Reserved , © Sept. 2017

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    Who is Kuria= Noble Lady part 1?

    [​IMG] Song of Solomon 8:5Who is this coming up from the wilderness, leaning on her beloved? I roused you under the apple tree; there your mother conceived you, there she travailed and brought you forth.


    Lord God send your guardian of the Church, Arch Angel Michael to defend your Elect and her children. Lord Yeshua (Jesus) come quickly!
    Hello everyone, and peace in Yeshua ha-Mashiach.
    Who Is "KURIA": Noble Lady?She is of the universal understanding, meaning: There should be one universal agreement on earth united in thought with the church over us in heaven, (THAT YESHUA ha -MASHIACH (JESUS the CHRIST) is the only way. She is not Roman Catholic, but some called out of there, are to be of Kuria. Kuria, believes in the Orthodoxy of the Word, She is not in the Denominations which call themselves this, but she is made up of some of those called from there. She is not Protestant, she does however, protest against all lies, deceptions and misunderstandings conveyed in denominations. In essence..... Kuria holds All Truth.She fellowships with all believers and even communions with the Queens. She has been given increase and surpasses the Queens in knowledge now. She is a princess at present, due to her age, a Shulammite ( a peace maker), who is to be the Last standing Queen. Who is of the Noble Lady? CHRIST DECIDES! Kuria embraces only the truth in denominations. She test all with scripture. All doctrines, and dogmas must stand upon the Word! This will be an extremely painstaking delivery. There should be intermissions taken, this- so the reader may digest and reflect!
    Philippians2:1-3
    One in Christ
    1Therefore if you have any encouragement in Christ, if any comfort from His love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, 2then make my joy complete by being of one mind, having the same love, being united in spirit and purpose. 3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or empty pride, but in humility consider others more important than yourselves.…

    At present can this be said of all who call themselves Christian? No! So, something is wrong. What has caused division? Philippians reveals the answer: ( 3. SELFISH AMBITION AND EMPTY PRIDE).

    Rev.14:3-6
    3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
    4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
    5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
    6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
    The Angels of God have given those Of Kuria a NEW SONG , each has his portion - song, it is the EVERLASTING GOSPEL. So this means all present day denominations do not KNOW EVERYTHING. It is NOT a WRAP. God has more to say, and it has already been given to us in ,SCRIPTURE. However, since it is the WORD it is eternal! Therefore everything Kuria shares will be revealed in the WORD.....denominations just have not heard the gospel in the way She will reveal.

    Kuria is a new arrival, nondenominational because she is to teach from outside of the tents .She is a pure Virgin in faith and can not be party to any lies ,therefore, she can not be committed to them. Her commitment is to Yeshua ha-Mashiach ONLY! Because She cannot fully align with any one denomination. She has no husband of them. But the Lord Himself is her husband. She is simply seeking whom her heart loves within the wilderness of Denominations. When she finds something her heart loves she keeps it. She finds something she likes from all denominations. That which is supported by scripture alone-( Sola Scriptura )of course because she leans solely on her Beloved. This can not be clearly understood without the Holy Spirit, for it is Holy Spirit imbued .

    2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-Breathed
    …15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…
    2 Peter 1:20-21
    20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

    The Noble Lady then ,can find something worth cherishing from all denominations.
    She takes the goods and cast the rest aside. She is here to admonish and esteem all the denominations. She seeks gold, silver and precious gems the only things worth putting in Her treasure chest. She is a gold digger admittedly . Only in it for the finest,
    She hates cheap stuff! No wood , hay or straw for her.
    1Corinthians3:11-14

    11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious gems, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward.
    Glory to God!

    Psalm 115 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
    Psalm 115
    The Impotence of Idols and the Greatness of God
    1 Not to us, O Lord, not to us, but to your name give glory,
    for the sake of your steadfast love and your faithfulness.
    2 Why should the nations say,
    “Where is their God?”
    3 Our God is in the heavens;
    he does whatever he pleases.
    4 Their idols are silver and gold,
    the work of human hands.
    5 They have mouths, but do not speak;
    eyes, but do not see.
    6 They have ears, but do not hear;
    noses, but do not smell.
    7 They have hands, but do not feel;
    feet, but do not walk;
    they make no sound in their throats.
    8 Those who make them are like them;
    so are all who trust in them.
    9 O Israel, trust in the Lord!
    He is their help and their shield.
    10 O house of Aaron, trust in the Lord!
    He is their help and their shield.
    11 You who fear the Lord, trust in the Lord!
    He is their help and their shield.
    12 The Lord has been mindful of us; he will bless us;
    he will bless the house of Israel;
    he will bless the house of Aaron;
    13 he will bless those who fear the Lord,
    both small and great.
    14 May the Lord give you increase,
    both you and your children.
    15 May you be blessed by the Lord,
    who made heaven and earth.
    16 The heavens are the Lord’s heavens,
    but the earth he has given to human beings.
    17 The dead do not praise the Lord,
    nor do any that go down into silence.
    18 But we will bless the Lord
    from this time on and forevermore.
    Praise the Lord!
     
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    welcome back.
     
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    Who is Kuria part 2:

    Now some will say," Oh, Kuria is Protestant", not at all for I clearly state : I only collect , the gold ,

    Silver and precious gems from denominations, not the wood , hay or straw. When I say “I”meaning one

    Of many. This is my song

    POINT: Some say , ( in particular , the Roman Catholic Church ), that scripture alone (Sola Scriptura) is false

    when it comes to forming doctrine and dogmas.They tend to claim REVELATION, is by which means they form doctrine. That statement in and of itself is false and contradicts scrip-
    ture .
    1 Corinthians 3:10-11
    Christ Our Foundation

    10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.
    For that would mean that all things which come from the Roman Catholic Church are the foundation. This simply is not so. The foundation is the written Word and it is to the Elect, predestined Jews through revelation that the foundation is laid.
    If one is Holy inspired to form a doctrine then that doctrine must be wholly supported and upheld by the written word. Otherwise , anything can be called revelation . God's word is like silver refined sevenfold.
    2 Timothy 3:16-17
    [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is (profitable for doctrine), for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

    PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE=MAKING DOCTRINE. You can not profit by making doctrines not upheld by the scriptures. It causes confusion and division. The only division there should be is righteous from the unrighteous not Christian against Christian.
    The sword separates wheat from the weeds, sheep and wolves.
    Matthew 10:16-25
    Sheep among Wolves
    (2 Timothy 1:6-12)
    16Behold, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves; therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17But beware of men; for they will hand you over to their councils and flog you in their synagogues. 18On My account, you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19But when they hand you over, do not worry about how to respond or what to say. In that hour you will be given what to say. 20For it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
    21Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rise against their parents and have them put to death. 22You will be hated by everyone on account of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.
    23When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
    24A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25It is enough for a disciple to be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!

    To be like your teacher you must form doctrines based on what the teacher taught. We are left His teachings in the scripture. There is no confusion, God has given us a means by which to test, that we not be caught in the devil's snares.
    1 Corinthians 14:33 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)
    33 for God is a God not of disorder but of peace.
    (As in all the churches of the saints,


    2 Timothy 1:13-18Hold to Sound Teaching
    13Hold on to the pattern of sound teaching you have heard from me, with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. 14Guard the treasure entrusted to you, with the help of the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.
    15You know that everyone in the Province of Asia has deserted me, including Phygelus and Hermogenes.
    16May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, because he has often refreshed me and was unashamed of my chains. 17Indeed, when he arrived in Rome, he searched diligently until he found me.
    18May the Lord grant Onesiphorus His mercy on that day. You know very well how much he ministered to me in Ephesus.


    Psalm 12:
    5“For the cause of the oppressed
    and for the groaning of the needy,
    I will now arise,” says the LORD.
    “I will bring safety to him who yearns.”
    6The words of the LORD are flawless,
    like silver refined in a furnace,
    like gold purified sevenfold.
    7You, O LORD, will keep us;
    You will forever guard us from this generation.
    8The wicked wander freely,
    and vileness is exalted among men.


    The RCC is notorious for making doctrines without scriptural support. And the Protestants though they claim Sola Scriptura they tend to deny any truth shown support by scripture if it supports anything outside
    of their denomination . Thank you RCC for your bringing forth your stubborn offshoot. Out of your sin you brought forth confusion and is why you are called The Mother of all HARLOTS in the book of Revelation.
    Not that the RCC is the only harlot , she simply is the biggest and most influential one. Hence , (The MOTHER of all harlots.)

    Rev.17-18 to be exact. A harlot in the spiritual sense is an unfaithful woman, a woman who cheats on

    the spouse. She has a vow of chastity and fidelity but always steps away from her committal to it.

    See, the foundation has already been laid, Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Christ) . What is built upon

    the Word is tested by the FIRE of the HOLY SPIRIT, either it will burn or remain standing.

    God has set up all present day denominations to have a falling away only that which is proven true will remain. His Word
    will always remain. Kuria Stands solely upon Him and therefore, will remain with Him. She is the Elect
    spoken of by Enoch. The writings of Enoch have been put aside as Apocrypha by the Roman Catholic Church,
    and not even Deuterocanonical either .

    God’s will .For now is the appropriate time to appreciate Enoch. For nothing happens that He does not allow to happen. Many today have read Enoch’s Writings, and have had many scales removed from their eyes.

    a·poc·ry·phal
    əˈpäkrəfəl/
    adjective
    adjective: apocryphal
    1. (of a story or statement) of doubtful authenticity, although widely circulated as being true.
      "an apocryphal story about a former president"
      synonyms: fictitious, made-up, untrue, fabricated, false, spurious; More
      unverified, unauthenticated, unsubstantiated;
      bogus
      "the possibly apocryphal account of the meeting between Diogenes and Alexander the Great"
      antonyms: authentic
      • of or belonging to the Apocrypha.
        adjective: Apocryphal
        "the Apocryphal Gospel of Thomas"
    Keep this definition in mind. The reason being? Well known denominations quote,( when it is convenient to)- from some
    apocrypha books. Some Orthodox do ,and the RCC does and Anglican. For example the name of the Virgin Mother's parents.
    is taken from the Apocrypha of the Infant gospel according to James and also the Apocrypha of Mary.
    Many contradictions and confusions will be sorted out with these post.

    For now, back to the RCC view on Sola Scriptura: This is an excerpt, from an article from a Deacon of the Catholic
    Church

    Micheal Bickerstaff.

    I only chose his opening comments , because the gist of anyone’s discussion is usually found in the

    Opening statements.

    The Protestant Belief in Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone)



    One of the “pillars” or founding principles of the Protestant Reformation is the Protestant teaching of Sola
    Scriptura. Simply defined, Sola Scriptura is the belief that the Bible alone is the sole rule of faith for the be-
    liever. In other words, if a teaching is not contained in the Bible, then it is to be rejected as having no au-
    thority over the individual Christian. Therefore, according to Sola Scriptura, the Church’s teachings (or a
    pastor’s – or anyone’s teachings, for that matter) are true only as far as they are found in the bible. Another
    aspect of Sola Scriptura is that each believer, guided by the Holy Spirit, will be led to the proper interpreta-
    tion and understanding of what he reads in the Bible.



    There are several problems with this teaching:



    First, Sola Scriptura is not found anywhere in the Bible, therefore, it is by its own definition not true.

    Second, the Bible teaches a far different doctrine; God’s revelation consists of both Divine Revelation in
    written form (Sacred Scripture) and Divine Revelation in oral form (Sacred Tradition) and the interpretation
    of Divine Revelation is entrusted to the Church’s teaching office (Magisterium).

    Finally, it is clear from both the Bible and history, that Christians who lived prior to the Protestant Refor-
    mation had a decidedly different experience and understanding of the place of the Bible in the Church.
    INTEGRATED CATHOLIC LIFE
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    CONTINUED : He claims Sola Scriptura (scripture alone) is NOT in the Bible, yet the Word clearly

    states:2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-Breathed

    …15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through
    faith in Christ

    Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for conviction,
    for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…
    Sounds like the Holy Scriptures are the means by which , WE MAKE DOCTRINES, GET and GIVE IN-
    STRUCTION, CONVICTION, CORRECTION,
    AND TRAINING IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. And all doctrines built ,are tested by the written word. It would
    seem to any intelligent person, the Holy
    Scriptures are the equipment for the Saints to do battle.
    ALL DOCTRINE BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION, ALL DOGMA must be supported by the WORD,” SOLA
    SCRIPTURA”!

    Sola Scriptura stands! Now does this mean Kuria is for the Protestant Church fully? Absolutely NOT! KURIA
    is for TRUTH!
    Again simply gathering, the gold, silver, and precious gems. All is now being tested by fire. This is the Day,which reveals all. It is the time of reaping, it is separation of the weeds and the wheat. Now, maybe the RCC
    feels people are illiterate, or just plain dumb......... she likes to
    insult your common sense with much of what she claims. From her adulteries she has spawned, her Protestant
    children.

    They rebel against her, what else could come from children conceived from a Harlot, who is such because of
    her adulteries

    against the WORD. These are the days which knowledge will increase. This will infuriate all denominations.
    But will set up a people who will be in God's peace.



    Daniel 12:3-5
    3Those who are wise shall shine

    Like the brightness of the firmament,
    And those who turn many to righteousness
    Like the stars forever and ever.
    4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro,
    and knowledge

    shall increase.”
    5 Then I, Daniel, looked; and there stood two others, one on this riverbank and the other on that riverbank.
    For centuries most of the RCC hierarchy dominated , and decided who would know the Word and would not
    allow people in. They have played

    the Pharisees who let no one into the kingdom of heaven and they themselves did not enter in. But as time has
    passed
    knowledge has increased and the laity have been able to search out and run to and fro to gain knowledge.
    Knowledge has increased and the denominations shall decrease in power. Many Catholics, however, still like
    to think the masses stupid. The RCC with her unfounded opinions that she calls doctrine or dogmas ,creates
    confusion.
    God is Not the author of confusion.
    And what the Harlot does , her offspring does one better, (in bad behavior), they attack the Blessed Mother.This can only be done because of the Harlots adulteries against scripture, with its false narratives and un-
    founded doctrines. All doctrine and dogmas must stand on the foundation which is Yeshua ha-Mashiach.

    Kuria is here to set the record straight, and make clear the way of the Lord!
    For His imminent return is close at hand. And more than that, but not greater than His return, the wrath of the
    Lamb.
    Through Mother Miryam (Mary) is the rise and fall of many kings.WHY? Because she is responsible -in Christ, for bring forth the Christ Child in us. In her titles and position give to her in Heaven she will be the determining factor of who will know the meaning of many mysteries surrounding her.Those who believe the truth concerning her will be made as a pure virgin those who remain clinging to falsely defined Dogmas , all false doctrines concerning her will be cut off! NO LIE can remain standing.

    This is Orthodoxy, it is strict adherence to the foundation. At lest that is what the word “ORTHODOXY” should mean.So the Orthodox must too receive and accept correction.
    All doctrines must stand upon the orthodoxy of scripture, Sola Scriptura,
    I will elaborate, after this one point:

    Any denomination that considers itself Christian must believe in these
    Main three things: 1 The Incarnation, 2The Holy Trinity, 3. Baptism .If these three Dogmas do not exist in you -then you are not even considered to be a denomination ,but rather a cult.
    My next post is concerning all things Mother Miryam(Mary) . I will address what the denominations refuse to discuss and what they have wrong God Bless!



    Intermission.............
     
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    RE: #3 Baptism - Water, Spirit and Fire Baptism?

    Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but there cometh he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire:
     
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    Yes water through the Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit gifts and the Holy Spirit fire of correction through the foundational teachings. All is according to the Power and decree of God. For from the womb John had the Holy Spirit . All is done in and of the Power of God.
    WATER:
    Matthew 28:18-20
    The Great Commission
    …18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”…

    FIRE:
    1 Corinthians 3 :12:14
    Christ Our Foundation
    …12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward.…

    HOLY SPIRIT:
    Mark 16: 15-18
    15And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”


    SUM:
    Luke 3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but there cometh he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire:

    The last two: Holy Spirit gifts and Holy Spirit teaching and correction .

    Water baptism is Holy Spirit cleansing, the baptism of repentance.
    Matthew 3:11-12
    11 As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
     
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    Clearly Christ is the scapegoat - God's lamb - our ram to escape the sentence of death for sin.

    scape·goat
    /ˈskāpˌɡōt/

    noun
    noun: scapegoat; plural noun: scapegoats
    1. 1.
      a person who is blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others, especially for reasons of expediency.
      synonyms: whipping boy, victim, Aunt Sally; More
      goat;
      informalfall guy;
      informalpatsy
    2. 2.
      (in the Bible) a goat sent into the wilderness after the Jewish chief priest had symbolically laid the sins of the people upon it (Lev. 16).
    verb
    verb: scapegoat; 3rd person present: scapegoats; past tense: scapegoated; past participle: scapegoated; gerund or present participle: scapegoating
    1.
    make a scapegoat of.

    He was treated as such by the Pharisees. John 11:49-51 The Plot to Kill Jesus
    …49But one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, “You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.” 51Caiaphas did not say this on his own. Instead, as high priest that year, he was prophesying that Jesus would die for the nation,…

    This is how our Lamb was a scapegoat and treated as such by the pharisees.
     
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    Our word "pure", "purify" comes from the Greek word in the bible puros.

    Fire baptism speaks of our purification - The trials of our Christian walk, suffering of chastisement ...

    1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
    13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
    14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

    Revelation 3
    18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

    A promise to those in the last days

    7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
    8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
    9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

    Malachi 3
    2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
    3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
     
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    Agree to a degree. We are both right about that fire. It touches all things and refines all things and it is by it that we are made beautiful . It is in suffering that we are shown glorious in Christ. All precious elements silver ,gold precious gems are made through the fire. How precious are the the teachings of the scriptures. The substance of them is eternal and we will never cease in finding greater meaning and depth from them.

    Now how do you purchase of Christ gold refined by fire that will make you rich and cover you in white raiment that your nakedness be not seen?
     
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    They that have not only studied to show themselves approved unto GOD (baptized in the water of the word) but have been plunged into the cleansing flames of God's fire as well.

    Water speaks of pleasant comfortable cleansing.
    Fire speaks of painful cleaning, smelting, removal of slag, impurities.

    Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

    Job 23:10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.
     
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    Agree to a degree. We are both right about that fire. It touches all things and refines all things and it is by it that we are made beautiful . It is in suffering that we are shown glorious in Christ. All precious elements silver ,gold precious gems are made through the fire. How precious are the the teachings of the scriptures. The substance of them is eternal and we will never cease in finding greater meaning and depth from them.

    Now, how do you purchase of Christ gold refined by fire that will make you rich and cover you in white raiment that your nakedness be not seen?

    I am not questioning any scripture I am questioning how you understand Rev.3
    Revelation 3
    18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
    19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

     
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    With my previous post.

    Jesus gave 7 messages to the Church in the first 3 chapters of The Apocalypse.
    The very first criticism He gave us: You have left your first love.

    The saints in the Ephesian Church were very knowledgeable and Jesus commended them for that.

    But It is not enough to have a head full of knowledge - not that having a head full of knowledge is bad, it is not.

    There must be something else or like the 5 out of 10 foolish virgins "our lamps will be going out".
    It is the oil that makes Jesus heart burn with compassion for His brethren.

    There must be that very special kind of love - unconditional agape - GOD's love.

    1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
    2 And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
    3 And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
    4 Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
    5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
    6 rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
    7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
    8 Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.
    9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
    10 but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.
    11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
    12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
    13 But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.
     
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    I will leave the Letter to the church of Laodicea for another time. It is clear you are avoiding answering the Rev.3 question. Not a problem.
     
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