Yes, we should turn away from such who profess to be saved, until such time as they repent and change their views, but God knows His own!
‘Nashville Statement’ condemns LGBT Christians and those who support them
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by rlvaughn, Aug 30, 2017.
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The CBMW holds to the Arian subordination of the Son to the Father ie: heresy. This in turn informs their adherence to the subordination if women to men.
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@Matt Black , before we become entangled in opinions on application or other doctrinal positions, do you believe that homosexuality is sin?
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Some have misrepresented the views of Ware and Grudem and claim they deny that Jesus is truly God.
*I will add that they view the authority of Christ as equal as well. Only in FUNCTION did Christ submit...as well as the Holy Spirit at times. The will is the same. This is also the view of Calvin and Augustine. See Calvin Institutes 2.12.2
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Paul, in accordance with *(giving up) "natural relationship" usage of stoic and Hellenistic Jews would be referring to homosexuality.
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I am very glad that this statement has been put together for churches to be able to use in their own congregations. Unfortunately, I believe it will be considered a hate crime for anyone to say homosexuality is wrong and having a statement in our churches will clearly state our belief from now until that point so it will not be like it will be a new thing. We will absolutely find persecution in this realm in the next few years. I guarantee it. But the church needs to stand firm on the Word of God. None of the things written in this statement are new. They are millennia old.
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
What did Jesus say about it?
What is the status of remarried divorcees?
Should the standard be different for those in the Church from those outside?
Flowing from the above, should there be higher standards for those in authority in the Church? If so, why?
Also flowing from the above, is the civil/legal ie state/ government's answer to these questions legitimately different from the sacramental/spiritual ie Church's answer? Should the Church be concerned about the former?
How has the civil/state's definition of marriage changed over time? Eg: property rights, inheritance, permission to divorce and remarry, SSM.
How has the Church's position changed? Eg: issues of consanguinity, annulment, divorce and remarriage
How does the Bible's position change? Eg: polygamy, concubinage in the OT, Moses permitting divorce, Jesus prohibiting divorce, meaning of "husband of one wife", etc.
I don't pretend to have the answers to all or indeed any of these questions necessarily, but they are all I think legitimate and germane to the question you have posted and I think demonstrate that the answers to these points are not necessarily 'millennia old' as Ann asserts above. -
Katarina Von Bora Active Member
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Matt Black Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Is remarriage after divorce a sin?
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Duck and shift? Did not know you were a politician. Who cares. We are talking about the Nashville statement condemning the LBGTXYZ crowd. Please feel free to answer, not add more fluff to try to divert the answer you don't want to share.
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I know of no one on this forum that holds to divorce on demand is not a sin.
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