Your testimony is hard to believe. Your profile says that you joined in January of 2008. Here is what your testimony says:
If you note, I joined the BB in July of 2000. The Catholics came shortly after that. It has been years since Carson Webber has been on this board. It is my guess that you joined as a Catholic and said that you were an Anglican knowing full well that you would never get in if you tried to join as a Catholic. You would have been rejected. Thus your entire application was based on deceit. How am I doing this far?
If that is true, you shouldn't be here in the first place, since the board doesn't accept Catholic applications. Sneaking in by deceit would warrant a shameful ban immediately.
Yes there are many that are Calvinist, and if you go and read the theology forum which is replete with threads dealing with Calvinism you will find that there are as many non-Calvinists as there are Calvinists. Otherwise there would be no debates on the subject would there?
Why was the subject of Calvinism brought into this thread any way?
Calvin got his ideas from Augustine. Many of points of Calvinism Catholics believe. Calvin was a former Catholic. He didn't give it all up. He is called a Reformer for a reason.
Baptists teach salvation by grace through faith alone.
Catholics teach that salvation is by works through the Catholic Church.
Those two belief systems cannot be reconciled. You can't believe both at the same time. You must choose one or the other. There is no sitting on the fence. Which side of the fence are you on? If you believe in the latter then you are believing that the RCC will get you to heaven and not Christ. That is a pitiful situation to be in.
Christmas thoughts
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Thinkingstuff, Oct 29, 2009.
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I joined this board as an Anglican, I'm leaving it as a Catholic. I don't appreciate being called a liar.
I followed this board for years without joining. I know why you have banned Catholics, they were getting the best of you!
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Let me add, for those of you who are familiar with Carson Webber.
He was a seminarian taught directly under Scott Hahn, the foremost Catholic apologist. These two have set up websites teaching Catholics on "how to answer a fundamentalist Baptist." They are what one might call professional Catholic apologists.
Like I said in a previous post, I am a missionary.
Lori's accusation:
If the Catholics adhered to the Bible only it is doubtful they could have won any debate, but they hated and do hate the doctrine of sola scriptura.
There are many on this board that can debate these issues far better than I can. I don't claim to be an apologist.
They were banned for using this board as a sounding board for their advertising and recruiting others to their faith. Propagating another's religion is not permitted, and any other person that does the same is banned. Thus Oneness Pentecostals have been banned. And so have others that have come on here with an agenda to spread false doctrine and recruit others to it. -
FriendofSpurgeon Well-Known MemberSite Supportersaturneptune said: ↑FriendofSpurgeon said: ↑If you had any kind of Baptist background at all you would have realized that Calvinism is a system of theology embraced by a number of denominations--Presbyterian, Lutheran, etc... Another point which makes me wonder just how much of a Baptist you were is the fact we are not a denomination. We are local autonomous churches with a cooperative effort with other local churches, and cooperative organizations at the state and national levels. We have no heirarchy. The SBC does not call our pastors, nor do they own our building or land. We are not a denomination.
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FriendofSpurgeon Well-Known MemberSite SupporterDHK said: ↑FriendofSpurgeon said: ↑But now you are a Presbyterian, and thus you know all about Calvinism. We don't know how long you were in a Baptist Church or what kind of Baptist Church it was. There are as many kinds of Baptist churches as there are denominations. Some people are unfortunate to get into one of those that never teach the meat of the word, and that it too bad. Some churches are too concerned with the outward appearance rather than the inward condition.
Take a poll on this board. It is Baptist. Are most of the Baptists on this board acquainted with Calvinism. When I first mentioned Calvinism, I mentioned it in the context that they had at least heard of it and had a vague idea of it, in contrast to "never hearing about it."
For a person wanting statistical information Baptists are considered a denomination. That is what you would find in an Encyclopedia, but then even an encyclopedia would break down the major groups of Baptists.
However, if a person is a member of a Baptist church, having read the statement of faith, and agreed to the constitution of the local church of which he became a member, how could he not know that he is not a member of a denomination?? It is one of the most basic distinctives of the Baptist faith (not denomination, but faith).
Yes I agree. There are some attacks that are a bit too nasty and unnecessary. Although still unwarranted, what happens is this: a poster comes and posts that he/she was a former Baptist (indicating a knowledge of the Baptist faith), but in the posts made show an insultingly lack of knowledge of the Baptist faith. So why claim to have been a Baptist in the first place?Click to expand...Click to expand... -
FriendofSpurgeon said: ↑For the record, I was a Baptist for 25+ years, in a strong IFB church. And thankfully, I was fortunate to be in one that taught the meat of the word. I was just making a simple observation that we didn't get into the C vs A debate at all in our church. BTW, I know all about Baptist distinctives.Click to expand...
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Thinkingstuff Active MemberZenas said: ↑Yes, I know what you mean. Except for one instance two years ago, Calvinism has never been debated or discussed in my church. Two years ago we were beginning a pastor search and I asked the committee to seek the consensus of the congregation concerning a Calvinist pastor. I did this because of the increasing number of Calvinist minded Baptist pastors. The committee sought the consensus of the congregation on this and many other issues. The vote was unanimous against hiring a Calvinist pastor. Calvinism had never before been an issue in my church and it hasn't been discussed since.
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That's because most Baptists left Calvinism, although the past is clearly Calvinistic.
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RAdam said: ↑That's because most Baptists left Calvinism, although the past is clearly Calvinistic.Click to expand...
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FriendofSpurgeon Well-Known MemberSite SupporterThinkingstuff said: ↑Most baptist I know hold to Calvinism though its not a baptist distinctive. In my church we have both. And they don't argue with each other! Go figure. We also have the standard Pretrib rapture people with amillenialist. And they don't argue either. However, I must say I don't know any KJO people at my Church. And most members use the NIV. The older folks still use KJV. I think the calvinist people in my Church use to really like Coral Ridge ministries before the pastor died. And I'm pretty sure that was a Presbyterian Church.Click to expand...
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As you can see from my user info I live in the UK. You get a lot of secularists saying ''Jesus is not reason for the season'' as it was originally a Pagan celebration. They miss the point here because not only are they not Christians, they certainly aren't Pagan in the true sense either. But then that is the sort of hypocrisy that you come to expect here.
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Yeah.
I saw one that said "Christmas has Pagan DNA."
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