MB,
I believe Isa46...24/7.....do you?
mb...here is a hint...when Jesus says...I WILL SAY UNTO THEM depart from me, I am pretty sure what he says is His will.:tongue3:
Is Cal/Non-Cal important enough to divide?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 12strings, Feb 24, 2012.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite SupporterAll Baptists do that, or else they're not true Baptists.
I never said Calvinism is from hell. It's from the mind of man but not the mind of God. Divisiveness is also from man, and Paul said not to have anything to do with divisive peopleClick to expand...
Jonathan....have you considered that all human theology is from the mind of man ..as men try and understand God's revelation to us.
Also, if calvinism is the truth...would that mean that you and some of the other ones ..are the divisive ones???:thumbsup:
Look...if you have sincere questions i will try and help you. Know in advance my answers will be from the reformed baptist perspective,,,so you will get what you ask for. i do not speak for all reformed baptists,,as I know many who could speak more eloquently than I can...I have some rough edges...but iron sharpens iron..so you can ask or question, or be critical as much as you desire.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite SupporterWinman said: ↑This has to be a first! :thumbsup:
Oh, I am sure we agree on many things. But I cannot agree that God does not give a man a choice to believe or not, this is where we part ways.
I do not see it as degrading to God to give man a choice. Who determined men would have a choice? God! God made the rules, not us.Click to expand...
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite SupporterJerome said: ↑Ed Stetzer, himself "Reformed in theology" according to glfredrick, is quite up-front in encouraging Calvinism-obsessed people to 'move on' when they begin attending his church:
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite SupporterOriginally Posted by Earth, Wind & Fire
Frankly, Ive sat in on some sermons by Reformed Pastors that dont hit the mark either ...... but on the overall, RB's provide good sermons. I also have seen RB Churches that are dead & dont know it yet. It is heart braking to admit, but I will not sit in a pew of a dead church. Perhaps that means I am difficult but if the Lord saved me (at the advanced old age of 53), then I am going to honor Him by learning as much as I can & trying to perfect myself as much as possible up until I return to the Father.Click to expand...
Sometimes it reminds me of a pro athelete who competes and trains hard to make the team....but then does not strive to maintain a high level of training to be at the top of his game.
We have come to truth...but the truth must be obeyed and practiced.if people do not pray for the Pastor....and the pastor does not pray for himself and His people...both will fall in the ditch.
Have you ever been in a worship service and happened to look around and see people who are not eager to hear or receive truth???
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Iconoclast said: ↑We have come to truth...but the truth must be obeyed and practiced.if people do not pray for the Pastor....and the pastor does not pray for himself and His people...both will fall in the ditch.Click to expand...
Have you ever been in a worship service and happened to look around and see people who are not eager to hear or receive truth???
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Ive been reading the statistics on Churches that are growing in America (the RCC) & then Churches that are sliding (SBC) which led me to think, what if the Calvies all left the SBC & moved on over to the also sliding Reformed Baptists......how would you feel then..... what do they represent (the Calvies) maybe 10 % ? would that effect the SBC bottom line to where it matters? Certainly, the RB's would be appreciative ...LOL
Anyway, here is a little history lesson on growth of the Calvinistic Baptists in the US in the 17th & 18th Centuries I found on line FYI.
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporterseekingthetruth said: ↑Luke/Rick
You are such a crybaby
I have never ran to the mods about you.
Go ahead and tattle and complain like a little girl.
When I see your sissy picture on your avatar i am not suprised at your weakness.
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Earth said: ↑John, how do you know Rick reported you?Click to expand...
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite SupporterIconoclast said: ↑This is more what I was trying to get at in my original post...This is indeed a sad problem...Sometimes the pastors and some times the people are not prayed up before entering the assembly,and God will not be mocked.
Sometimes it reminds me of a pro athelete who competes and trains hard to make the team....but then does not strive to maintain a high level of training to be at the top of his game.
We have come to truth...but the truth must be obeyed and practiced.if people do not pray for the Pastor....and the pastor does not pray for himself and His people...both will fall in the ditch.
Have you ever been in a worship service and happened to look around and see people who are not eager to hear or receive truth???
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Luke2427 said: ↑I have to agree.Click to expand...
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporterseekingthetruth said: ↑Because it is his sissy nature, and he has done it before
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Earth said: ↑So you do not have definitive proof but you lash out at the guy?!? How do you know for sure..... could it have been a moderator picked up on it by reviewing the thread, or perhaps someone else who got bent out of shape by your tirade. What your doing is slandering a brother. Do you think thats the smart thing to do?
Conversely I can tell you to take your lumps like a man & stop your whining. Right.Click to expand...
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporterseekingthetruth said: ↑Moderator told me it was reported, thats how
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Earth said: ↑John, how do you know Rick reported you?Click to expand...
Why don't you let Lucina fight her own battles?
And, if you dont believe me, just ask Lucina if she reported me.
John
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