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Mark Driscoll to speak at Rick Warren conference.

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Bro. Curtis, Jan 2, 2010.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    He has nothing to do with the Emergent movement. Which is vastly different than the Emerging movement he is part of. I support neither. But the Emerging errors in methodology while Emergent are full blown heretical liberals. Driscoll while misguided on a number of things dealing with methodology holds to very conservative theology in a great many areas. Bottom line is Driscol is not an Emergent.
     
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    I disagree.
     
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    If he has grown out of the statements in that book, and no longer believes them, what has he done to take that book out of print? I know that if I put out a book with those words in it, then later repented of writing it, I would do all I could to get the book out of print and disassociate myself with it. Mark Driscoll, however, still actively promotes that book.
     
  4. annsni

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    Remember that the book is called "Confessions of a Reformission Rev." and in it, he speaks of his past growth and mistakes he made. Take a quote about what he formerly believed, take it out of context and "boom" - you have a quote that makes him seem terrible. But let us see the quote in context and I can just about guarantee you that it's not what he said. The book is good - but it's showing his past mistakes and how he's grown. Of course he's going to still promote it.

    Brother Curtis will still continue to post here even with all of the things he's said before that can hurt him. But of course those things were not true, were they?
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    They seem to be true. The gates of Hell could not hurt Christ's church, I'm not sure why you are so worried about me. Seems like you are taking this stuff personally. And yes, I will still post. And yes, Matt Wade asks an excellent question.
     
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    No he's not a leader in this movement. He's not even a participant with the movement much anymore. He (like many of us) have moved on since the Emergent group since they have offered nothing substantive in terms of methodology and have defaulted to old, washed up liberalism in terms of theology.

    If you believe he is part of this movement it just goes to show you have no idea what this movement is or who is involved with it.

    Yeah, you have no clue what you're talking about here. Take some time, seriously, take some time and go and download a couple of his sermons and listen to them. They take about an hour or so a piece and are loaded with sound exeposition and hearty theological insight. If you are saying he's some kind of vapid, self-consumed, surface preacher than you really are showing your ignorance on this matter.

    I challenge you to download some sermons, listen to them, and the come back and show me where they are not profound.
     
  7. annsni

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    I don't know if he does but since there's no Scriptural command against it, what is the problem?

    Are there any people saying that there are issues in his ministry today or are they still working off of the old stuff. Just goes to show that Christians always remember and never forgive, huh?
     
  8. preachinjesus

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    Okay, show us. Straight up. Show us. Not links. Show us. Right here, right now.

    Otherwise you are questioning the honesty, integrity, and earnestness of a preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ who has done nothing to warrant these questions. He has moved on and has produced a Gospel centered, God fearing, Scripture based ministry winning thousands to Christ and growing God's Kingdom.

    I haven't heard it lately, but as I recall his recipe was pretty good. ;)

    We need good, Christ honoring beer. Otherwise it isn't worth it. :thumbs:
     
  9. annsni

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    Here's the emerging heretics own words about the best way to present God to the unbeliever. Tell me what part of this is heresy:

    from http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/...se_for_god_a_response_to_karen_armstrong.html
     
  10. preachinjesus

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    The whole emerging/emergent thing is so over, I don't know why some are getting tied up in it so much. Honestly it boggles the mind.
     
  11. Bro. Curtis

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    Read the thread.

    I can't ask questions ? I see a few guys more interested in looking "cool" to the world than anything else. I don't apologize for their first impressions.



    I rest my case.
     
  12. Bro. Curtis

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    There's no command to refrain from teaching the Watusi, either. But if a church was teaching it, I would be posting it up here.

    It's not up to me to forgive. He hasn't offended me. He is free to preach whatever he wants to, and you are free to listen to whatever you want to.

    I haven't seen him distance himself from his prior teachings. You would think someone would post that, first and foremost.
     
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    I just did, its only 4 pages, I have yet to see your issues and proof that he is the heretic you branded him. Show us, not with links, but with proof of your claims.

    I'm all for asking questions, I ask a lot of them myself. What is different here is you have already branded this pastor a heretic. That is a strong libelous claim from a follower of Christ. So we have been asking you to show up and show us proof for your claims.

    It is a very harsh claim to say someone is a heretic. Especially of a God ordained, pastor of the Gospel.

    I would like to see some evidence that Pastor Driscoll has done that. Then I would like to see the Scripture where it is wrong. To my memory Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine. Show me where the Bible teaches us that beer is mortal, heretical sin.

    The gauntlet has been laid, will you take it up? Otherwise you have just called a fine gospel preacher a heretic for no reason...and should be ashamed.
     
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    It wasn't just me, and I don't allow myself to get bossed around. Pound sand.



    I didn't make the claim lightly.


    You are putting words into my mouth.

    I don't feel shame. I have no regrets.
     
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    No, you called a man of God a heretic.

    You called him, from the other thread
    available here: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=63625&page=9 post #82

    Prove it or apologize. You don't get to walk around libeling people.
     
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    How about you prove he isn't a wordly preacher. Prove he has stopped cussing, prove he has stopped telling his flock how to be acceptable to the world. Prove he teaches biblical separation. How about you disprove anything in the first link I supplied.

    You have no authority over me to issue commands, despite whatever you do think of yourself.
     
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    Have you ignored my posting of him in the Washington Post for a reason?
     
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    Here's more of Driscoll:

     
  19. Bro. Curtis

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/magazine/11punk-t.html

    To Ann, I didn't ignore it. It simply doesn't address any questions posed so far. It doesn't disprove my assertion that he is a worldly preacher. Even Benny Hinn gives a Christ centered message.

    Preachers are not above criticism. They are not to be revered. Mark Driscoll seems to care more about looking cool than getting people saved. Then again, if you subscribe to his Calvinist teachings, people can't be saved. They are either born saved, or doomed from the start, eh ?
     
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