Liberal-thinking, not based on Scripture. St. Matthew 5:32.
Tenn. assoc. disfellowships church with female pastor
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Revmitchell, Oct 20, 2015.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
If you which to be legalistic, Ted, that is certainly your right! However, be reminded that Paul also told us, "Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God's grace." Romans 6:14.
And the verse, or teaching I truly love is in John 8:1-11, particularly verses 10 and 11, where Jesus speaks to the adulterous woman and asks and commands, "Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?" ..... "No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
I happen to believe that there is no sin, except for blasphemy, that God can't and won't forgive! However, if you chose to be selective that is something you will have to live with and give an answer for in heaven! I used to be a lot like you, Ted, legalistic, and strict when it came to these issues! Nevertheless, God has taught me a very personal lesson about sin, forgiveness and his Grace towards those who sin in the manner of divorce and remarriage!
I'll bet you have no problem with Christian pastors and leaders who smoke or drink (socially of course)? Or do you? How about cussing? What about being overweight? And have you ever gossiped? What do we do with those folks: cast them aside, if they committed those sins and transgressions while living for Jesus? -
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I have a friend who was a basketball star in high school. He went to college on a basketball scholarship. He was offered a place in the lineup of a professional team but he had been in ROTC all through college and wanted to service in the Army before accepting the offer to go pro.
He stepped on a "bouncing betty" and lost his left leg. When he was medically discharged he did not play pro ball. Why not? Not because there was unforgiven sin but because he was no longer qualified. -
Here is your entire post (post #51) -
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Cannot God actually provide the numbers needed without us doing that? -
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Reading and understanding are two different activities. I, for one, cannot find anywhere in the Bible that says a divorced man can not be a pastor. It is the remarrying of another that is not his wife (who is still living) that does this. He is no longer the husband of one wife.
Some say Paul was talking about polygamy, but polygamy was an not an issue with the Jew nor most Gentiles. Paul was not talking about being married to one woman at a time either, he was not talking about have only one flavor of the week, month, year or period. He was talking about have one wife and I believe that is before or after salvation.
These rules are not designed to punish anyone but they are God's rules for His Church. God knows why He made these rules and He expects us to faithfully abide by them. God's rules are not to be amended by Godly men. People twist and delete parts of God's Word, not to be Holy, but to excuse the shortcomings of their behavior so they can pretend that everything is alright so they may continue doing man's will. God wants his loved creation to love Him back. We do that by keeping His Commands and not changing or adding to them because He will keep His Word. -
"The woman answered and said, “I have no husband.” Jesus *said to her, “You have correctly said, ‘I have no husband’; for you have had five husbands, and the one whom you now have is not your husband; this you have said truly.”
Jesus said she was correct that she has no husband. Jesus didn't say "Oh, on the contrary, you have 5 husbands and the one that you are with isn't your husband."
So a divorced man remarrying would still be the husband of one wife. Had he married the second woman while he was still married to the first, that would be different. -
Are you saying that if a man divorces and joins with another that person can still be the pastor of a church? -
Yes, I, myself, often fall into justifying my sin, at least until I have accomplished what I knew to be wrong. I am so thankful that my Savior's blood is a lot more powerful than all sin combined. -
righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
[QUOTE="TCassidy, post: 2180287, member: 2704"But clarity of thought does not seem to be your strong suit, especially where the bible is involved. :(
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Ouch! You certainly are snarky! How does God handle that kind of attitude, dressing down and tone when speaking to another brother, TOM? Still, I do forgive you for your mannerisms! It is clearly understood that I am not someone you like! Even though I was created in the same IMAGE of God as you?
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Again, it was an honest mistake! Wink -
Someone needs thicker skin...
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