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COL 2:16 And The Sabbath - Are You Being Told The Truth?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by 3rdAngel, Oct 3, 2019.

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  1. 3rdAngel

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    Why would you need to change the subject of the OP when only Gods' WORD is presented? As for me I only believe and follow God's Word. Do you?
     
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    Rubbish! You are confused brother in the "SHADOW LAWS IN ORDINANCES" and mixing up the OLD with the NEW. CIRCUMCISION is that of the heart through faith.

    ROMANS 2:27-28 [28], For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: [29], But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    GALATIANS 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which works by love.

    GALATIANS 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.

    COLOSSIANS 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

    1 CORITNIANS 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

    Yep God's Word says it all. Now where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day? If you cannot find this scripture why are you following man made traditions that break the commandments of God?

    Receive Gods' Word and be blessed
     
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    So the word's of Prophetess Ellen G White is not God's word?
     
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    You did not know God's WORD is the bible? Only God's Word is presented here in this thread. Why do you not want to discuss it?
     
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    I'm not angry; if I was, my dismissal of your cultic garbage would be much more blunt.

    YOU are ignoring the TRUE meanings of certain Scriptures, substituting Mrs. White's scum for that truth.
     
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    Its never been abolished even for Jews today. The point is if you want to keep the sabbath you are REQUIRED CIRCUMCISION.

    Simply give us the rundown on "HOW TO KEEP A SABBATH" Give us the scripture for it.

    STEP 1



    Step 1 how to keep sabbath.

    "Now where is the scripture that says God's 4th commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day?"

    Yes. Jesus Christ rose from the dead on Sunday in an act of HOLY WORSHIP that makes that day HOLIER than all weekdays.

    We can get everyone in the world and force them to worship saturday........JESUS STILL HAS US BEAT, He did it on SUNDAY.

    Romans 1
    4who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord,

    The Resurrection has blown out of the water the very essence of Sunday being holy. The power of the ressurection is ACCORIDING to the SPIRIT of holiness.


    If your trying to say we are not allowed to worship on Sundays more than Saturdays, Jesus Christ already broke your rule.

    He annihilated any chance of Saturday to ever top Sunday.


    1 Corinthians 15

    17and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

    ALL the worth came SUNDAY. No raise? WORTHLESS.


    I can find more scripture. Point being if you want worship to occur on Saturday over Sunday. Jesus broke that.
     
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    No, what you're presenting is Mrs. White's goofy private interps of God's word, not just His word.
     
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    According to who?

    What bible do you use, who says you have the correct bible?

    We need to clearly define what the word is in order to discuss it.

    You say Ellen G White is a false teacher, that clears plenty of things up.
     
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    Yes, I did. I have Bibles, & had read the Scriptures long ago, but the OPINIONS & FALSE PRIVATE INTERPS in those posts came from various writings of Mrs. Ellen G. White, the Grand Imperial Ooobah of the SDA cult.
     
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    I am circumcised in the manner God requires, "spiritually" (Deuteronomy 10:16, 30:6; Jeremiah 4:4; Romans 2:29, etc) of the heart, since the Law of God is "spiritual" (Romans 7:14). Therefore, no law is broken. Or are you saying, that the keeping of the spiritual is not keeping?
     
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    What's not worth reading is Mrs. White's false private interps of those Scriptures.
     
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    Why take the thread Off Topic?
     
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    You are confusing the 10 Cs aimed at wicked unbelievers with the 2 GCs aimed at believers.
     
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    ““The LORD our God made a covenant with us at Mount Sinai. The LORD did not make this covenant with our ancestors, but with all of us who are alive today.” (Deuteronomy 5:2–3)
     
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    Umm, it is on topic, and I am sure 3rdAngel would like an answer also. However, I do recall a certain someone going the route of "covenants" rather than exegete, line upon line Colossians 2. Who was that again? Maybe you can help me find that post.
     
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    Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant

    “And He (God) wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.” Exodus 34:28


    “And He declared unto you His covenant, which He commanded you to perform, even the Ten Commandments.” Deuteronomy 4:13:


    “When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.” Deuteronomy 9:9:


    “So I turned and came down from the mount . . . and the two tables of the covenant were in my two hands.” Deuteronomy 9:15:

    “There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone which Moses put there at Horeb, when Jehovah made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt,” I Kings 8:9

    “And there have I set a place for the ark, wherein is the covenant of Jehovah, which he made with our fathers, when he brought them out of the land of Egypt.” I Kings 8:21

    The second of these two texts is repeated in II Chronicles 6:11.

    Consider “The ark of the covenant” that held the Ten Commandments (Numbers 10:33; Jeremiah 3:16, and other places)

    Also; “It contained the golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered entirely with gold. In this ark were the golden urn containing the manna, Aaron’s rod that budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.” (Hebrews 9:4) (NET)
     
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    I already showed you. There are two covenants in Exodus 19. The one made with the fathers, "If .. then ...", "All that the LORD hath said we will do ...". That is the 'old' covenant, that wasn't made with others.
     
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    You will be taking it off topic diverting attention away from the OP.
     
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    But you are confusing the now defunct 10Cs with the eternal 2GCs.
     
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    As stated, there are two covenants in Exodus 19 (even plenty of commentaries agree if you need those also). You just proved what I stated. The eternal Law of God was "my covenant", not the one the father's made with God, in agreement.

    As I said, you have to eisegetically read into those texts.
     
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