I take it that you can not refute my post????? Because only comments like this come out when they do not know how to defend there theory in light of the Word!
Start Praying in Tongues
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by plain_n_simple, May 13, 2013.
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Awakend...
Thank you for alerting me about the wrong post. I got confused somehow I guess. Thats what I get for posting when tired!
I went back and fixed it.
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Jedi Knight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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ALL that done by him at pentacost, since acts, going forward, we ALL have same HS come upon and indwelling us, ALL have some gift, ALL have same 'experience" of receiving Him!
ONLY command is to be continually refilled by HS, as jesus said that we ALL shall be His witness, ALL receive the HS and empowering, NOT just those who have tongues and "baptism!" -
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Obviously, we need to submit to the lordship of Christ and cooperate with the Spirit for transformation and empowerment. The guy in the Youtube video in the OP is way off base. But just because there is widespread confusion and false teaching about spiritual gifts doesn't mean we dismiss spiritual gifts altogether and assume anyone who exercises spiritual gifts embraces heresy. That's just foolish. -
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Aren't there situations where God may want to authenticate the gospel through signs to his people and those who have not yet entered into the Kingdom of God? In my experience, it happens a lot more than most "churchy" people realize. -
Sign of infilling of the HS in a saint is love/living for jesus, effective witness, NOT what tongue/gift exercising!
prophesy in local churches in Apostolic Age were direct revealtions from the HS unto Christians, but now we have the bible, so he speaks thru us in that more sure Word!
You "hope" that a tongue/prophesy is really of the Lord, we KNOW that it is in Hid word!
biblre states ALL have SAME HS, ALL have a Gift from HS, ALL have the power to live for Him and be witnesses, so how can denying tongues today affect ANY of those truths? -
This is fairly strait forward from the scriptures...
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A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign.
Signs are for weak or wicked people.
People who have a faith worth having see God in the opening of the red rose as much as they see God in the opening of the Red Sea.
Tongues was never gibberish.
The Bible says tongues would cease when the complete revelation came. It is here. Tongues have ceased.
And, as I said above, even if they continued they would not be mindless gibberish but rather they would be the ability to speak in real languages that one has never learned. -
You're wasting your time.
This person believes what she wants to believe and no amount of reason or scripture is going to change that.
These folks are not led by reason or scripture anyway. They are led by emotions and feelings and conjured experience.
On top of that, they NEED this fake stuff. They NEED it. They could not believe faithfully without it.
For them to allow you to convince them that it is bogus would be for them to allow you to convince them that there might not even BE a God.
The reason they keep believing in God altogether is because they go to church or their "prayer closets" and feel things that they convince themselves is the Holy Ghost.
So this belief in this mess is so precious to them that they would NEVEr let it go- not if Jesus himself came and told them otherwise.
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They use these "experiences" like a drug, and they become addicted. The simple truth and promises of the Gospel are not enough for them. -
This is pre-cross. He is speaking to Jews. The Holy Spirit had not come yet. It would be the same as David asking the Holy Spirit asking for the Holy Spirit to come upon him. There is no difference. As it is pre-cross, consider the OT dispensation. It is totally irrelevant to either the baptism or the indwelling or the filling of the Spirit. This is a good example of Scripture taken out of context. But that is par for Charismatics.
Copeland preached a sermon using the text in Mark 10 on the rich young ruler, showing how one can be rich!! Totally opposite of what it teaches! You do the same thing.
1. You are not God's child.
2. God is not your Father.
3. You are not saved, and you have much greater problems then asking for the Holy Spirit.
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As others have post in previous post....it is a waste of time to futher discuss this! We will never changed each others mind! So those that are content to not manifest what God says we can! Then continue on in your walk with God without it!
As for me...I will continue on walking what I have been and seeking a closer walk with my Lord! May you all have a wonderful journey with our Lord and Savior!
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